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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Ammeter not working.

ok well my orignal Ammeter has never worked in my truck and i was thinking on how to fix it to get it to work? i had a 67 mustang and that Ammeter never worked also and just never know how to fix it any one else have this problem? is it commen?

any one know how to get this thing working again? prehaps what i should check and see what part is bad or how to test if the gauge even works and how it should be hooked up?

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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It probably needs cleaning.

If not they can be replaced easily enough.

What year is it ?

You can test the gauge for continuity using a VO meter
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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the truck is a 77 f150 single cab with a 1970 429 engine in it.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Remove the instrument cluster. Remove the nuts on the back of the gauge. clean the flex circuit under the nuts and also at the main connector. smear a thin film of silicone dielectric grease on the flex circuit under the nuts, on the studs, and on the main connector. Re-install the nuts and cluster. The gauge should work much better. If it does not check your wiring diagram for broken connections in the harness. The ammeter wire connections are welded onto the main power lead. The ammeter is measuring a very small voltage drop in the power lead. Any corrosion at a contact will disable the ammeter.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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what should i used to clean it? just whipe down with a dry cloth? also is the flex circuit usually fragile and brittle due to age?

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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Be carefull about using an ohmeter to check an amp gauge. The will be no resistance to the current used to measure resistance and it takes almost nothing to peg the meter and possibly damage it.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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has anyone else have this prob and has cleaning and regreeseing the flex curcuit fixed the problem most of the time?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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well the meter is not a true amp meter it just moves a little when the voltage drops or climbs like the rest of the gauges it is just a fancy idiot light.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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Use electrical cleaner with a soft cloth.

Just a thin film of di-electric grease will be fine.

I'm send ing you an e-mail, so watch for it
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
well the meter is not a true amp meter it just moves a little when the voltage drops or climbs like the rest of the gauges it is just a fancy idiot light.
Actually that's not true. Functionally the charge indicator on the dash is an ammeter. It is connected in series with the charging circuit. It has a shunt that protects it from overloads. And it indicates current flow not voltage fluctuations. Practically, since the shunt used is not calibrated and there are now real valued on the guage face it can only indicate charge or discharge of the battery.

Also the design of the guage in general was not Ford's best offering. The design is too suceptible to dirt and manufacturing variables. How much resistance does a 3 foot piece of wire have? That is what makes the meter operate. I've made mine more sensitive by adding about 10 feet of wire to the shunt.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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got the email thanks! do you think it is worthy to take it all appart and mess with it? or dont even worry about it?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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I am one of the guys on FTE that brags about the fact :

"I Have an ammeter that works"

Ask yourself if it's worth it

You're the one doing it.
Once the cluster is out you can clean it all up, change the bulbs or take the blue cover off to brighten the lit area of the cluster.
heck now you can even get different colour bulbs for them.

This will start the next 25 years of its life.

EDIT:

I forgot to mention, even if it's working >>>>Once the battery is charged up and running full..the needle doesn't move off the center line anyways.

It moves when the engine is revved up when the battery is low on charge.
 
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Mil1ion , you really have a working one wow! that is a historic moment you may just be the first one. to take the cluster out it is pretty simple takes 10 mins and then you can clean up the circuits and gauges i also changed the color of my bulbs to blue but it was a big mistake it makes it even harder on your eyes at night.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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never mind i got it!
 

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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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thanks guys i got it working!
 
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