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Old May 30, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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I'm sure some of yall will think I'm crazy, some will find this entertaining and some might find this to be useful info. Well, in the quest to be able to tow more with my '88 F-250 (the 3.55 gears being the only limiting factor) I've figured out how to shift my BW1356 manual shift T-case on the fly. I pull up to a stoplight with about 19K in tow, once I'm stoped I put it in low range (hubs unlocked) run through 1st, 2nd, 3rd in low range, then through a quick double clutching process (hard to explain exaclty) I shift the T-case to 2HI and the tranny to 2nd gear which matches up almost perfectly. No grinding, just shifts smooth as silk. I have almost 200K miles on the truck and have been doing this for quite a while, haven't noticed any ill effects. Just thought some of yall might find that interesting. BTW, I think this can only be done with a manual tranny/manual shift T-case and manual hubs. Anyone else ever tried this?
 
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Old May 30, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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That is sort of how you had to double clutch the old dump trucks. Clutch it, shift the two speed rear end, clutch it, shift the transmission. Miss one or the other of the shifts and go back down a gear and start over.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Yea, I believe this would not work real well on my esof auto transmission. I might try it someday when I have time to stop on the side of the road and pick up all the parts that it spits out on the pavement.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JOE-M
That is sort of how you had to double clutch the old dump trucks. Clutch it, shift the two speed rear end, clutch it, shift the transmission. Miss one or the other of the shifts and go back down a gear and start over.
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Thats exactly where I got the idea from, lol. One day while driving my uncles old C-60 grain truck (4spd, w/ 2spd rear-end) I got to thinking man it'd be nice to have a 2spd rear in my F-250, then the sick thought of using my T-case popped into my mind. Needless to say I tried it and after a few tries I got it down to an art. Unfortunatly you can't really use it to split gears with, but the extra 3 lower gears make it much easier to start big loads. I love watching the looks on peoples faces when I pull off a stoplight with a hugh load, truck in 1st gear, low range. When you put your foot in it in those first 3 gears the whole truck rocks over to the right because its putting so much torque to the driveshaft, lol. Yeah, my u-joints must hate me....
 
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Old May 30, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlockF-250
...When you put your foot in it in those first 3 gears the whole truck rocks over to the right because its putting so much torque to the driveshaft, lol. Yeah, my u-joints must hate me....
Better be carefull you'll twist the driveshaft out from under it. It will come out looking like a "TWISLER CANDY". I learned that the hard way on those dump trucks. OOPS.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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i can do this with my C6 Np-205 Combo. People look because it's so loud and not goin to fast. i hit 3800 from 1st low range then, manually shift to 2nd lowrange then at 3800 shift to 3rd which is really only regular 1.5th gear. then i will shift the t-case into N the trans to 2nd to match up and then the t-case into 2HI. it's only efficient when i'm hauling really heavy stuff or i'm in the hills. i got 4.10's so it's really low in 1st low range. like 5-10 mph.
 
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Old May 30, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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I often use the Low range in my BW1356 manual shift manual hub truck for moving the trailers or camper around in the yard. I've never used it out on the highway though. I have 4.56 gears in my truck, so I have plenty of gearing for the weight I pull. I'll keep this in mind though if I need more gearing .
 
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Old May 31, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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I do it. Sometimes just for fun.

i have a granny gear and 4.10's so 1st gear is pretty low .

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Originally Posted by DT 466Man
I do it. Sometimes just for fun.

i have a granny gear and 4.10's so 1st gear is pretty low .

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That NP435 is a great trans! Someday, I will have one in the Bronco.... .
 
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