Notices
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series All Ford Ranger and Mazda B-Series models

No Start

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 25, 2005 | 01:44 PM
  #1  
Quackhead94ranger's Avatar
Quackhead94ranger
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: stevens point
No Start

aiight, my truck does not like to start lately im kind of confused as to the culprit tho. because at first i thought that it was the battery cable, but then i realized that if i use a screwdriver on the starter solenoid, it starts right up, so i bought a new starter solenoid and figured that was the problem, well i changed the solenoid and it started just fine, AT first, then 10 minutes later i get in my truck and turn the key and NOTHING. im very annoyed by this, is it possible that my new starter solenoid is bad? or could it have something to do w/my battery cable?
i just replaced my starter less then a month ago also. any ideas?
 
Reply
Old May 25, 2005 | 02:04 PM
  #2  
CowboyBilly9Mile's Avatar
CowboyBilly9Mile
Post Fiend
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,940
Likes: 2
From: Eastern WA
Have you checked for a grounding problem? It it always a no crank when you have the problem?
 
Reply
Old May 25, 2005 | 04:28 PM
  #3  
Quackhead94ranger's Avatar
Quackhead94ranger
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: stevens point
yes it is aloways a no crank kinda deal. but now the problem is worse, i cant even get it started at all. this is pissing me off. how could i blow aother starter? this is the 4 or 5th starter i've gone thru in a little over a year. why is this? what is going on????
 
Reply
Old May 25, 2005 | 04:45 PM
  #4  
87 XLT's Avatar
87 XLT
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Likes: 1
From: SoCal
Try this, pull the wire with the rubber boot off of the starter relay. Have someone turn the key to run & see if you have 12 volts on this wire.


Got wiring diagrams?????
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2005 | 07:45 AM
  #5  
Quackhead94ranger's Avatar
Quackhead94ranger
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: stevens point
allright! i will do that, but what does it mean if it doesnt have 12 volts?
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2005 | 01:39 PM
  #6  
CowboyBilly9Mile's Avatar
CowboyBilly9Mile
Post Fiend
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,940
Likes: 2
From: Eastern WA
It means you have a fault causing you to not get the 12V required to activate the starter solenoid; could be a bad switch for example.
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2005 | 04:37 PM
  #7  
Quackhead94ranger's Avatar
Quackhead94ranger
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: stevens point
well my brother put a new battery cable in my truck for me, and when i turn the key all that it does is click. what does this mena?

and what kind of bad swithc???
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2005 | 05:24 PM
  #8  
87 XLT's Avatar
87 XLT
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Likes: 1
From: SoCal
The solenoid is part of the starter. Is that what you replaced? On Chevys they can be replaced. I did'nt think they could be replaced on Ford's.

The click you hear is the starter relay closing, so the circuit is good from the ignition switch to the relay. If it was the starter relay that you jumped earlier & started it, then the starter relay is bad.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old May 26, 2005 | 07:49 PM
  #9  
Quackhead94ranger's Avatar
Quackhead94ranger
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: stevens point
ford has a fender mounted starter solenoid as well as a solenoid on the starter were as chevy's ( i believe ) only have one solenoid, and that is the starter mounted one.
so you think that my starter solenoid is shot? i will look into it. thanks
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 01:46 AM
  #10  
87 XLT's Avatar
87 XLT
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Likes: 1
From: SoCal
Heres how your start circuit works. When you turn the key to start the starter relay closes & sends voltage to the starter solenoid. The starter solenoid shoves the starter gear into the flywheel & closes the contacts to complete the circuit back to the battery. From what you say it "sounds' like this part of the circuit is working.

So you might have a bad ground cable to the battery.

Try this simple little test, Add a jumper cable to the ground cable & see if it will start. If it does, replace the ground cable.

Got a starter circuit wiring diagram??????????????????
 

Last edited by 87 XLT; May 27, 2005 at 01:48 AM.
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 07:16 AM
  #11  
pawpaw's Avatar
pawpaw
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,851
Likes: 111
From: SW Va
Club FTE Gold Member
Could be a misbehavng intermittent Neutral Start switch, if it's a automatic tranny, or clutch switch if it's manual.
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 09:48 AM
  #12  
Quackhead94ranger's Avatar
Quackhead94ranger
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: stevens point
allright! that's an awsoem idea and i will for sure try that when i get home from school! and no i dont have a starter circuit wiring diagram. were could i go about getting one?
and it is an automatic by the way
 

Last edited by Quackhead94ranger; May 27, 2005 at 09:49 AM. Reason: forgot something
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 01:05 PM
  #13  
87 XLT's Avatar
87 XLT
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Likes: 1
From: SoCal
For my 87 Ranger & 95 Taurus I have the Ford "electrical & vacuum troubleshooting manuals." Got them at helminc.com

These have the wiring diagrams for all the circuits in my vehicles.

VERY handy to have for figuring out electrical problems.

Sometimes all it takes to figure out an electrical problem is to look at a GOOD wiring diagram.
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 03:18 PM
  #14  
Quackhead94ranger's Avatar
Quackhead94ranger
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: stevens point
yes i will look at that. but as of right now my truck starts. my brother put a new batter cable in and i bought a new starter solenoid and now it starts. but he thinks that if the new batter cable doesnt fix it that it could be the cable that goes to the starter solenoid to the battery.
i am kind of curious as to wondering if my keyless entry problem has anything to do w/ my truck going thru so many starters.
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2005 | 03:29 PM
  #15  
Quackhead94ranger's Avatar
Quackhead94ranger
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: stevens point
well once again, started fine the first couple of time i try to start it. then i let it sit for a hour, go in, turn the key and nothing. but i can still start it with the solenoid.
this tells me ?
i dont know this tells me something but i just dont know what. gosh
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 PM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE