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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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That we didnt do.. We drained the oil with a pump and changed the filter. Filled it up vith Castrol 15/40 oil

I know what youre thinking , but why did it happend in the first place.. Engine sits in a boat and have 150 hours run time , thats a new engine..
1996 model..

Can all push rods be of a bad serie ??
i've heard of diesels in boats but never a psd....that is awesome....
i was thinking and what kind of intake system does this thing have. could you possibly be sucking a lot of moisture???? does this thing have a truck pcm? are you gonna chip it or put bigger injectors in it???? now that would be cool and probably a first!!!!!!!! not sure if anyone else picked up on that this engine is in a boat(correct???) there may be something going on there????
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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i've heard of diesels in boats but never a psd....that is awesome....
i was thinking and what kind of intake system does this thing have. could you possibly be sucking a lot of moisture???? does this thing have a truck pcm? are you gonna chip it or put bigger injectors in it???? now that would be cool and probably a first!!!!!!!! not sure if anyone else picked up on that this engine is in a boat(correct???) there may be something going on there????
in edit: stacks and rolling some serious smoke on the way to a cool fishing spot would be a sight to see i have to admit!!!!!!!!!!(on the water of course)
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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That's one HEAVY boat engine!
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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What kind of RPMs are you turning with it?
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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i gotta agree... i would wonder about moisture in the intake charge of air... lots of different variables a marine engine has to deal with... also... don't forget... a marine engine under load is ALWAYS under load... meaning... a psd in a truck gets oportunities to "coast"... going down hills... rolling to a stop... a marine engine is under constant load whenever the boat is moving... the load on an engine when moving a boat through the water is variable but constant... i wonder what that would do to a psd that was meant for "land use"... generally marine engines, (gas or diesel), are more "heavy duty" than there land based cousins....
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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I have twin Ford 460 CIDs in my boat. They are basically the same as any other 460 except for the cam shaft and the marine spec stuff i.e. starter, alternator etc... Of course the rotation is opposite on each side...
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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i gotta agree... i would wonder about moisture in the intake charge of air... lots of different variables a marine engine has to deal with... also... don't forget... a marine engine under load is ALWAYS under load... meaning... a psd in a truck gets oportunities to "coast"... going down hills... rolling to a stop... a marine engine is under constant load whenever the boat is moving... the load on an engine when moving a boat through the water is variable but constant... i wonder what that would do to a psd that was meant for "land use"... generally marine engines, (gas or diesel), are more "heavy duty" than there land based cousins....
Hehe I have to disagree with you there johnny.... I have a little 18' starcraft runabout w/ a 135 Merc 2-smoker strapped to the back... and there are days when i'm out on the water that i'd rather have my stroker strapped to the back!! I've hade the fortunate oppertunity to been around boats for alot of my life... you are right about the motor being under strain 100% of the time, but with the screw turning the forces on the enging are different than that on land... going up a hill is more stress than in water, where they are a constant... although i forgot the equation for water displaced by a propellor, a PSD would be a very reliable marine engine.... my .02, and sorry for the thread hi-jack

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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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no prob robbgt... i also think a psd would make a great marine engine... i'm just wondering if something about the marine climate and workload doesn't agree with a stock psd... or maybe something in the intake or exhaust needs to be upgraded, i don't know... all i was saying is that a marine engine leads a very different life than a land engine... i would like to know what this gentleman finds out about his pushrods..!
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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no prob robbgt... i also think a psd would make a great marine engine... i'm just wondering if something about the marine climate and workload doesn't agree with a stock psd... or maybe something in the intake or exhaust needs to be upgraded, i don't know... all i was saying is that a marine engine leads a very different life than a land engine... i would like to know what this gentleman finds out about his pushrods..!
Yea your right about the intake and exhaust needing to be upgraded! they would need to be totally incorperated into the new design as well as a new coolant system that could handle water from a lake/ocean..... But the basics of the motor i think would work well in a marine enviorment.... now back to the push rods...

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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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Could be floating the valves if he is underpropped...
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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good point fast freddie..! i don't know what floating the valves on a psd would do.. but it couldn't be good for the motor...!
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Isn't the rev limiter present on the boat motor too? All it would do is go up to the limit and no further, no matter what the load on the engine.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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If the engine is run at idle for extended periods of time, wet stacking could occur. To maintain proper operation, the engine as to be running at operating temp., but if left to idle it can drop below that operating temp. and things start to gum up as kwikk originally mentioned. Most of the rigs that idle over night in cold weather are able to set it at a "high" idle to keep the engines at operating temps. On a boat that should be possible, but on our trucks it's not as easy, unless you have an AIC.
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 02:52 AM
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I can and cant see how wet stacking can cause harm in a PSD. Where I work we have 7 E350 PSD ambulances. These rigs sit at a local race track for 8-10hrs a day atleast twice a week. They idle all day long with the AC running. We have never had any reliability issues with them. We do however add approx 5qts of oil between changes. In December when we dont have work at the race tracks and the rigs dont sit and idle for extended periods we dont have to add any oil between changes.

So yes extended idle time can consume a hefty amount of oil, but in my case seems to be harmless.
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 04:53 AM
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First of all the oil question.. We filled it up with Castrol 15/40 diesel . But its mineral oil.. Can this mean something..

Yes the engine is in a boat.. It have only 150 hours on it. Top rpm is 3800 rpm. Never been there.

Intake and aftercooler

3 thigs comes to my attention.. A safety valve in the oil system stuck ore sticking.
Wrong oil , it does not like the mineral oil.
And last.. His oil pressure is 5.7 kg ore 82 Psi at 3000rpm..

This is not my engine , its a friends. Its abaout 300hp
My boat engine is 7,3 IDI pre powerstroke.270 hp
My engine is almost ready to go back in the boat.. Top rpm is 3500.

this type of engines are araound in Norway in boats everywhere.
Its in 2 types.
Starpowr is one and Mercruiser is another.. Me and my friend have Starpowr engines..
 

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