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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Boss 429

A buddy of mine recently purchased a Boss 429 that was all complete minus 1 carb for $200. He stripped the engine and took the block to a shop, didn't even need to bore it. Still is a standard bore. Anybody know where to get bearings and seals etc for this engine?
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Then you guys woke up!!!!

I know you mean 429.........and just go to PAW, Jeggs or Summit. Plenty of parts to choose from
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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even if it was a boss 9, the bearings, and seals are the same with some exceptions (head gaskets, intake, valve cover to be specific) so anywhere should hve what you want for it. If by chance it really is a boss 9 the block would be worth that plus add one zero, and the heads are worth more than you can even think to pay for. If you could find a really Boss 9 complete for less than 20k you got a good deal even if it needs rebuilt.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 01:47 AM
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What do you mean "minus 1 carb"? They only had one carb.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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My bad, there was only one carb, and it didn't have it. Yes, it is a Boss 429, yes he knows what one looks like cause he also has a Boss 302. Kinda nice when the guy selling it doesn't know what it is. And don't insult me by saying I don't know what I am talking about. That's uncalled for.

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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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A 429 Boss in no way looks like a 302 Boss. I didn't see anybody insulting you but if you know so much about it why did you come here asking about where to get a bearings and gaskets. It is just very hard to believe that somone would sell a Boss 429 for $200! Give us some casting #'s from the block,crank,rods and heads or some pic's.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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A 429 Boss in no way looks like a 302 Boss. I didn't see anybody insulting you but if you know so much about it why did you come here asking about where to get a bearings and gaskets. It is just very hard to believe that somone would sell a Boss 429 for $200! Give us some casting #'s from the block,crank,rods and heads or some pic's.
True, a Boss 429 looks like no other engine Ford ever built. The value covers were totally unique.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Courtesy of PatfromJersey over at Big Block Ford Heaven. The pic on the bottom is a Boss '9. Notice the valve covers. They are that way to cover the splayed valvetrain that is unique to the big Boss, and they are completely unique. If you have a true Boss, there will be no question as to what you have.




 

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Old May 24, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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See there you go again, I never said I know much about them, stop talking down to me. I have no idea what the casting numbers and cant find out for a while since he lives about 100 miles away. He does know Ford engines, I just thought that maybe this forum might have some more places to get parts. But apparantly I'm getting called a liar and an idiot instead of getting my questions answered. Whether you beleive me or not I could honestly care less at this point, just tell me what parts are different and some places you can get them at. He ordered new rings, there's 4 each piston, and they cost $500. People also think they never can win the lottery and someone does all the time, so back off.

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Old May 24, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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btw he tore the engine apart and said the heads are nearly 1 ft wide and weigh a ton.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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I belive your question was answered. Read the firt few post and it clearly is mentioned that the boos 9 uses the same parts.

My questions is how in the world can one know what a boss engine is and not know what parts it takes? If he had this motor at the shop why couldn't the shop tell him what he needed and why are you asking for him if he knows so much? I would guess that one who knows a boss 9 motor would know how to build it or where to go to get it done.

No one is calling you a liar it's just to hard to believe with questions like I mentioned not being answered. To many times people think a 4v 289 motor is a Hipo motor which is a completely different motor than a factory 4V. Point is that it would be more likely that one has been misinformed about what he or she has bought. Given the questions at hand I would think that the motor is not a boss 9 myself.

Why get so worked up over something you don't even own and have no way of proving otherwise? Besides you are relying on your friend to tell you what he has.

If it is a true boss motor then more power to your buddy and good luck with the build.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Take a pill or something and calm down! Your getting all upset over nothing. I did'nt see anyone call you a liar. Like I said,it is hard to believe someone would sell a Boss 429 for $200. As far as parts go do a search on the net for Boss 429 parts. There are some people that specialize in these engines. You can also ask at http://www.network54.com/Forum/85220 There are alot of Boss owners and builders on that forum,but you will need to calm down if want help from them.

BTW The heads are aluminum and shouldn't weight a ton.
 

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Old May 24, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Thank you Greenhighboy, I was just going to mention that fact that the heads are alum, and actually weigh less than a passenger car head I believe it is around 55lbs each complete versus over 80lbs each for bare standard heads, (actualy they weigh about the same as a standard iron small block head a little more but not much) and they aren't any wider than a standard head due to the fact they have to sit on the same block surface (even though the blocks are different, but all the differences are interenal such as 4 bolt mains, thicker main cap webbing, and priority main oiling system with a specific oil passage for the heads that isn't on any other blocks, which is why you can't just bolt the heads onto any 429/460 block it takes A LOT of work to make that conversion)
Another thing the Boss pistons didn't have 4 rings they had 2 compression rings, and an oil control ring like every other big block, and most any other ford engine, with the exception that some of the Race versions actually only had 2 rings instead of 3, but not 4.
Now I am not calling anyone stupid, but by your description it's not a boss 9, I have no idea what it is. And yes people do get really good deals even on stuff like boss parts (actually seen a set of boss 9 heads at a garage sale with $75 on them but before I could grab them another buy beat me to it, but that was also in the early 80s) but consider that there was only less than 1500 of the origanal boss engines built.
Now if you will notice I told you in my first post were to get the parts you asked for, and did nothing more than express my doubts as to wether that was what it was or not, heck I have seen listings for Boss 429s on ebay that were everything from an FE to a standard passenger car 460, and a lot of people mislabel standard passenger car stuff as CJ, and SCJ parts (like crank spacers, or timing covers, dist caps etc this stuff makes no difference whats so ever), and even call real SCJ engines Boss motors which is most likely what your buddy actually has if it has 4 bolt main caps if not and it actually is a 429 then at best it's a CJ, but probably a standard passenger car engine.
 
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Whatever......
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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FYI


His neighbor is President of the Ford motor Association in MN. He showed him the engine right after he bought it. The neighbor offered him 20k on the spot. And yes he said it is a Boss 429. Since then He has had about 3 people offer up to 25k for the engine as is.

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I'll get casting #'s next time I am there.
 
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