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Old May 20, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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i have a 2002 F-250 V10 with the 3.73 axle ratio. i would like to upgrade it to the 4.30 axle ratio so that i may increase my towing weight. is this possible? if so, do Ford dealerships do this work? about how much would it cost me? is there anything else i would have to do beside the axle ratio to up my towing rating? thanks for all your help! hope to hear from you soon. according to the Ford Fleet Website, my rating is 10,600 now and if i can go to the 4.30 axle my rating goes up to 13,500. any and all help would be great!
 
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Old May 20, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Your towing capacity is on your door sticker. There's not much you can do about that.
You will be able to tow more weight but not legally.
 
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Old May 20, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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legally? so gears just cant be changed without messing up something else?
 
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Old May 20, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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like 99f350sd said, the truck will do more than the legal limits allow you. when your towing more weight, the gears will really just make it easier on the truck, re-gain your low end torque. if you want to safely increase your capacity, then you should change the springs, or add to them. as for the gears, the dealer may or may not be able to do that. i know mine here locally does not, however there are plenty of performance shops that will do it. you should look at spending about 700-900 dollars per axle. remember, if it is a 4wd, then you MUST re-do front and rear unless you NEVER use 4wd. i was looking at switching mine a while back, and i was quoted right around 1500.00 to have the whole job done(front and rear/parts and labor)
 
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Old May 20, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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sry if i am ingnorant here, but the V10 with 4.30 can tow a FW up to 13,500 and a V10 with 3.73 can tow a FW 10,600. the only difference being the axle ratio (gears). so what is more legal about one than the other?
 
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Old May 20, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Motor vehicle dept, cops etc will look at your door sticker. If you are overloaded you are in the poop.
 
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Old May 20, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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so my only legal thing to do to increase the size of the fifth wheel i can tow is to buy a new truck?
 
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Old May 20, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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With an F250 and a 5th wheel you are more likely to exceed the GVWR of the truck before you reach the GCVWR. I think that's what the others are trying to point out. Even if you change the gears to increase the combined weight rating (which I believe you can), it won't help the GVWR which for your truck I believe is 8800#.
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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[QUOTE=towandcamp]please help.

[font=Arial][size=2]i have a 2002 F-250 V10 with the 3.73 axle ratio. i would like to upgrade it to the 4.30 axle ratio so that i may increase my towing weight. is this possible? if so, about how much would it cost me?

Towandcamp,

Cost including the gears s/b around $1000 all said and done. Maybe more, maybe less, but budget a grand. If you have a good 4X4 shop within driving distance, I'd opt for them vs. Ford doing it. Labor cost is the killer on this upgrade.

DS
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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so my only legal thing to do to increase the size of the fifth wheel i can tow is to buy a new truck?
Yes. What does your truck weigh? What is the pin weight of your fifth wheel? If they equal more than 8800 pounds you are not legal and you cannot change that. I have a relatively light fifth wheel. It's 26 feet and has a gross weight of 8500 pounds. The pin weight is about 900 pounds. I am over gross, on the truck, by a couple hundred pounds every time we go camping. Doesn't matter what F250 SD you are driving if your fifth wheel has a gross weight over 10K you are always illegal because you will be over the GVW of your truck.
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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my GCWR is 17,000 and my GVWR is 8800 and my Maximum Trailer Weight is 10,900. i have not had my truck weighed yet. so does anybody out there have a similar truck and how much does it weigh?

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Old May 21, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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My truck is in my signature. With me and a full tank of gas it weighs 6,200#.
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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i went and got a certified scale reading today. with my wife, myself, and a full tank of gas my truck ways 6500#. which means i am 2300# below my GVWR. so i can pull a FW no more than 10,100? does that all sound right?
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Sounds about right. You should be able to do 10,000# with a 5th wheel (20-25% on kingpin) or 10,000# with a TT (10-15%) on weight-distributing hitch. Lower gears would help you more with the TT since the 5th wheel puts more weight on the pickup.
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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All 2002 V10 F250s have the same GVWR, regardless of gear ratio; 8800#, Your GCWR changes with the new gears. GCWR is not on the sticker in the door. Gear code is, though.

I'm thinking about making the same change on my '01 V10; 3.73 to 4.30. Just can't make myself spend the money right now!

Jim
 
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