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Old May 20, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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4.6 and 302

Hey guys, was just reading some comparisons, and was wondering what any of you think of the 4.6 vs the 302? i have both a 1989 with a 302 5 speed, and a 97 4.6 auto, and i can tell ya with both my trucks, the 302 is faster, seems to have more power, and get way better fuel mileage, maes me wonder why ford didnt keep the 302 in the newer fancier looking trucks! what do you guys think?
 
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Old May 20, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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They are both great engines but my neighbor has just the opposite opinion. He has two Ford Explorers. The '99 has the 302 and is 2wd. The '04 is 4wd with the 4.6. Both are autos with 3.55 rears. He says the 4.6 is more powerful and gets much better fuel economy, but he didn't give me any real numbers. What he really likes about the '04 the most is the IRS and the smoother ride.
The 302 has been around since '68 and is a carb engine converted to EFI. The 4.6 is OHC of more modern design.
I have a Mercury Cougar with the 4.6. It gets 26 mpg @ 72 mph on cruise control. I know trucks cannot be compared to cars, but I've never heard of a 302 anything getting 26 mpg.
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 04:45 AM
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We have an 89' Bronco 5.0 all stock except K&N Filter, I think its about 180 hp, I just picked up my 04' Explorer late yesterday, with the 4.6 v-8 and I think it is 239 hp, and to me feels like it has alot more kahunas !
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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The 99-up 4.6L engines have more power due to the redesigned heads. The earlier 4.6's were a bit down on power.
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by daveee
I know trucks cannot be compared to cars, but I've never heard of a 302 anything getting 26 mpg.
Thats odd you say that, I actually used to own an 87 mustang gt with a 302 5 speed, with I believe 2>78 grears and it usually got 30 mpg on the highway and best it got was 35.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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2.73 Gears were standard. My 88 5.0LX gets about 24mpg on the highway with 3.55 gears., but we must remember that the Mustang is about 1000lbs lighter and cuts the wind much easier. My Dad's 89 F150 5.0 AOD gets about 14 or 15mpg.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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The mustang 302 h.o and the truck 302 had little in common basically just the block.The 281 is a cammer and makes peak torque at a far lower rpm than a push rod motor.The 302 h.o made 205 hp with accessories on and the non pi 281 is 220hp.The pi heads are only good for 11hp not 30 like everyone thinks.They changed the way motors were rated in 94.
 
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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by preppypyro
Thats odd you say that, I actually used to own an 87 mustang gt with a 302 5 speed, with I believe 2>78 grears and it usually got 30 mpg on the highway and best it got was 35.
Same here 302 '91 TBird gets 33mpg interstate, 18 - 19 city... still smokes the tires

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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Same here 302 '91 TBird gets 33mpg interstate, 18 - 19 city... still smokes the tires

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Does anyone over the age of 18 believe this?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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I think I will go and trade my 04 SCREW in on a T-bird. That is a big difference between highway and city sounds like a little BS going on to me
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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I'm a little confused on the responses... are you guys saying you disbelieve the mpg ratings i've posted? if so... cool... i'm only presenting data i've found out through personally driving my car for the last 13 years...

are you saying you've driven a tbird 302 for more than a month and not noticed similar fuel consumption rates? if so... what have you been getting?

In any case there are many more friendly places on the net... i'll be heading there... please forgive the honorable attempt at contributing to this forum...

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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see the specs here

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymod..._Mustang.shtml
 

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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hag
I'm a little confused on the responses... are you guys saying you disbelieve the mpg ratings i've posted? if so... cool... i'm only presenting data i've found out through personally driving my car for the last 13 years...

are you saying you've driven a tbird 302 for more than a month and not noticed similar fuel consumption rates? if so... what have you been getting?

In any case there are many more friendly places on the net... i'll be heading there... please forgive the honorable attempt at contributing to this forum...

Hag

Let's say we give you the benefit of the doubt........I'm thinking the smoking of the tires is what's raising the BS flag.

With a 2.XX rear axle ratio and driving at 50MPH, downhill, tailwind......the MPG is possible. I just don't see tire smoke with this combo.

From now on, in order to not offend new members, we'll just take what is offered without any dispute.

Please don't leave.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Funny, with my stang it averaged 28 mpg, and roasted the tires, funny what any vehicle can do with a standard tranny and any gearing in the rear end, especially for roasting tires.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by preppypyro
Funny, with my stang it averaged 28 mpg, and roasted the tires, funny what any vehicle can do with a standard tranny and any gearing in the rear end, especially for roasting tires.


What exactly is funny??? A guy with a T-bird that weighs 500 pounds more than your stang, has an automatic tranny AND gets 5 MPG BETTER fuel economy...............and your point?


Sounds like your stang should be doing MUCH better...
 
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