Im 17 and I work in the dirt (started the engine rebuild on my daily driver when I was 16 1/2, on july 10th or so)

 

youre only 17 and you have over 1,100 posts! haha. thats great. so are you only gonna be a senior next year? or are you just a young senior? most of my friends are, my gf doesnt turn 18 until the end of july

adam

 

phew, ok good

yes that would work but blocks suck regardless. i highly suggest doing a shackle flip and pull any blocks out from between the spring and axle.

-cutts-

 

Why is that funny? I manage to find enough time for the boards between part orders... I dont drive right now, my 350's a little "engineless" Also, Ive been a member since july 03 or something like that...

Im a junior...ready for the summer. lift michie XLs prop injection...ah...and a ghey truck that runs

 

Hehe, just the other day I saw a chevy with so much body lift, besides seeing the frame rails, you could see the engine. (no gap guards)

About how much do you get by flipping the rear shackles? I might do that, then get some F-250 springs to level out.

BTW, my '93 clears 31x10.5 with no problem.

 

so what is the problems with blocks? why do so many people disslike them and i was reading about some shackle flips and people were talking about having the angle just right to make it work properly? I do live in a small town in texas and i was talkin to one of my friends and hed let me use their barn for a while if i need it. but this truck is my daily driver so i dont want to do anything that would sacrifise the ride TOO much. the closest big town to me to get stuff is 30 or so min.

 

Lift blocks in the rear creat axle wrap. This is very bad, and thats all you need to know. It is fixable w/ ladder bars or a 4-link, but you would have to fab the ladder bars to stay in your budget, 4 link is out.

The shackle angle isnt all that important for it to just WORK, but for the best ride possible, 35-40* is the prome angle. Its not that hard to get it right. You change hte shackle angle by where you mount the shackle mount. in order to compensate for leave compression when the truck is back off the jack stands, you should set the shackles to about 10* past a vertical shackle. (this varies form truck to truck due to spring rate) I dont know what yours would be, Im just guessing-it might be better to start off at 15-20* to compensate for leave compression.

Flipping your shackles involves grinding off the factor 4 bolts, then unbolting the shackle from the leaf pack. AFter this is done, switch the shackle mounts around (180 degrees) so that the shackle now points directly downward when loose. Bolt the leaves back onto the shackle (supporting hte axle w/ a hydro jack so you can control the height of the leaf) and position the shackle hanger on hte frame so that hte shackle is pointing at a 10-20* angle (depending on how much droop/compression you desire) and mark the frame appropriately. Drill frame for 4 new holes and then bolt up and go...

This should take someone (who has never worked on suspension before) about 6hrs at the most. 4 would be good timing for me, but Im extreme ADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD..........

Edit: shackle flip w/out extending frame is about 2.5" of lift....DEPENDING ON SHACKLE ANGLE HAHAHAHAHA.....THE EVIL SHACKEL ANGLE.

 

Most have said shackle flip itself is a solid 3". Moving the mount as low as you can on the existing frame is about 4-5" depending on what class. Or you can go like Ivan and extend down so you can drop the mount itself. That's a great way, too. And cheap.

 

I have a 2000 Expedition and I want a 6" lift but $2500 is a little more than $500, if you can help me figure out a way to lift it safe and reliable---minus the $2500 or a body lift then let a poor kid know.....

 

> I have no clue why they do that

Because changing the stock bumper height or location is illegal in many states, in others they limit the change (2" in GA), and because the chance of being sued by someone for a totally unrelated reason that stated the changed bumper height caused them additional damage because of your product is much higher. Though I would say it is mostly because of the fear of being sued. If it costs $10k to defend yourself that pretty much takes the $10 profit out of a lot of body lifts.

Plus, remember, changing the front bumper height of a modern vehicle with air bags is not a good idea at all and might totally defeat the system in a crash.

 

SAWZALL buddy

its free, safe, and looks hella cool!

BTW, this is a mighty old post, how'd you dig this bag of bones up?

-cutts-

 

I had nothing else do do but read this stuff, and I'm want a lift but I don't have alot of money....needed help.