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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Unhappy my ignition died

well, it happend today......my ignition has always been sloppy and in order for all key-on power items(radio, heater ect..) you would have to turn the key towards the back end of the "RUN" slot. last week it stopped starting my truck so i wired my own start swich.

and now the key will not even go into its slot, my buddy at the shop says that i need to drill out the locking mechanism with a 3/16's bit to get the pins to drop so i can use a screwdriver to act as a key so i can acually pull apart the ignition to get the whole thing out.

i dont know what to think, my heads spinning on the subject.

any thoughts?????? does anyone have another steering colum that i could just swap in? thanks guys.
 
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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just replace the switch, they aren't that expensive, and a lot easier than replacing hte entire column trust me.
 
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Old May 14, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Moved. Truck tech discussions in the truck sections... thanks.
 
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Old May 14, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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just replace the switch, they aren't that expensive, and a lot easier than replacing hte entire column trust me.
lol thats my plan, but what i hear is its a big pain, I have gathered a few opinons.

one i hear that i need to get my ignition to the run position, so since the key does not go in i need to drill till i can turn with a screwdriver, then it shold pop out when i push in that little pin on the bottom-side of it.

then i was told that i need to get it to the run position, so yea im not gettin away from tearin down my colum, but he said that i would then have to pull the steering wheel and do the long and anoying of tearing it down step by step to push some kind of other button in behind it to swap em?

my confusion is between those two sugestions, does anyone have any ideas? this is an 87 XLT version Bko.
thanks guys!
 
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Old May 14, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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Before you go through all that try this first, Make sure the wing tips on the key switch is lined up like it is supposed to,(sometimes they strip and are not in line with how the key enters the lock cyl.) if the key still does not go in, spray a quick shot of WD40 and try to put in the key, if it still does not want to go in try tapping the key with a small hamer or pair of pliers etc. If this works turn the cyl. and replace
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Old May 14, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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Here's a link on how to do it.
http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBr...3d800a9e94.jsp

My lock cylinder fell apart also, and I could not get the key in. It is designed so if you insert the key, and turn it to the run position, there is a secret pin that you push to disengage it. But if you can't get the key in, you have to force the situation. I scanned the link I gave you up above, and they have a lot of procedures, but on my 80 with tilt, all I had to do is take a screwdriver and a hammer, and force it out. The thing with the wings broke off, and then I was able to reach up by the cylinder and push the retaining pin down to get it out.

I went to the Ford dealer and got a new for about $14.00. But I found out later the local auto stores carry them also. And I didn't go to the trouble to have the door locks changed, so now I have two keys. One for the switch and one for the doors and everything else.
 

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Old May 15, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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Franklin2, FYI, If you care to get it back to 1 key works everything, if you have a "good locksmith" in your area with a walk in shop not just a mobile service, they can replace the ign. cyl. and match it with the door key for probably $20. 00 (mobile service can do it but this obviously cost more because they are coming to you)
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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thanks for the replys guys, i ended up spendin a good 4 hours of drilling the key out yesturday till there was nothin left to hold it, and then pop it out to put the new one in! i never knew i had a tilt steering wheel, does anyone know how to ajust these? i think it would be cool to ajust it down farther into my lap. thanks guys!
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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I also have a tilt wheel on my 80, and had the truck for about 4 years before someone told me about it. He was standing there talking to me, and said hey, I notice your truck has a tilt wheel. I argued that it didn't, and he told me to push the turnsignal lever away from me. I started pushing on it, thinking all I am going to do is break it off, when suddenly the steering wheel dropped down. I asked him how he knew it was tilt, and he said he saw the slot in the column where the turnsignal lever enters. He said a normal one is just a rounded rectangle where as mine was shaped like a rounded T.
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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wooooooh!!!! no way! i hated having my steering wheel up so high and i never pushed on the lever hard enough to move it. thats too cool.
 
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