Notices
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator 1997 - 2002 and 2003 - 2006 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator Discussion

'97 Expy dies at stop

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 13, 2005 | 08:22 PM
  #1  
boxdoc2's Avatar
boxdoc2
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Shawnee KS
'97 Expy dies at stop

OK, looking for help on here again please! My '97 Expy seemed to be running great until I mentioned that fact. Then it decided to act up. Guess I didn't knock on that wood fast enough. Anyway, here's the deal. When I came up to a stop light a couple of days ago the motor idled just fine, but then dropped in RPMs from about 700 to 400is and acted like it was going to die. It popped back up to normal and seemed fine. Well at the next light it did it again and then died. It started right back up and drives fine, but at a stop (while in drive) it bogs down and wants to die. Tapping on the accelerator keeps it running, but something is not right. I've done a search and read that it could be an idle control valve. Maybe even a fuel filter. Just wanted to see if there were any more thoughts.
Thanks!
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2005 | 09:33 AM
  #2  
NoMo's Avatar
NoMo
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,742
Likes: 8
From: OK
Start with the filter. If that doesn't fix the issue, move to the IAC. Pretty safe bet that the problem will be gone with one of those two things.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2005 | 10:20 AM
  #3  
falcor1's Avatar
falcor1
Junior User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
From: lawrence
out of curiousity,how many miles do you have on the vehicle?nomo might be right if you have more than 30k miles on board and haven't changed the air filter.you might want to also change the spark plugs just to make sure you getting a good bang at the cylinders.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2005 | 12:27 PM
  #4  
PaulC's Avatar
PaulC
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,297
Likes: 0
I would follow NoMos advice first.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2005 | 04:16 PM
  #5  
boxdoc2's Avatar
boxdoc2
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Shawnee KS
Well, looks like I have another project! It has about 117 or 118 K if memory serves. I am unsure as if the fuel filter has been changed. The plugs were changed about 2 years ago so I'm pretty sure they're still OK.
I'll pick up a fuel filter tomorrow along with the "special" tool to change it. From what I've read I'll need one, correct? If that doesn't fix it, I'll try the IAC. Thanks you all!!! I'll let you know what happens.
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2005 | 08:47 AM
  #6  
boxdoc2's Avatar
boxdoc2
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Shawnee KS
Changed the fuel filter on Sunday. Seemed to run rough Sunday night, but yesterday morning and this morning it was running great! Hopefully that's all it was. Thanks again to everyone for the tips! Hope to see some of you in Kansas City!
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2005 | 12:07 PM
  #7  
wavinwayne's Avatar
wavinwayne
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: North Alabama
I had the exact same problem on my '97 Expy at around 80k miles. cleaning the entire area around the throttle body plate is what did the trick for me. No problems since. That was three years ago.

It took 15 minutes & a $3 can of throttle body spray cleaner.
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2005 | 08:04 PM
  #8  
boxdoc2's Avatar
boxdoc2
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Shawnee KS
Well, it's acting up again. I was looking at the throttle body and there's a sticker that says don't clean. Special coating applied. Should I not clean around that? If not, what exactly did you clean wavinwayne?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:31 AM
  #9  
ugotkern's Avatar
ugotkern
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
All you need to get is an Intake Cleaner that is coating safe. I got a can of foamy intake cleaner and sprayed the entire contents of the can into the intake while the car was running as directed. Be prepared to see alot of smoke exiting the exhaust.... this is normal. Just follow the instructions oin the can and you should be good to go.
 
Reply
Old May 18, 2005 | 06:36 AM
  #10  
wavinwayne's Avatar
wavinwayne
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: North Alabama
Yes, that's it. A Ford mechanic told me that Ford put a special coating on the throttle body that was supposed to keep dirt, grime, carbon, etc. from sticking to it. Well, it may have looked good on paper, but it didn't work.

Clean it. I cleaned mine three years ago, which in theory removed the "coating", but it has not really gottten dirty again since. I check it about every 6 months. It's still clean. If throttle body cleaner scares you, wet a shop towel with rubbing alcohol & use that.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 10:16 AM
  #11  
captron76's Avatar
captron76
New User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
may be vacumn lines

I have a 98 Navigator and had a similar problem with idling, and it turned out
to be the vacuum lines.
The rubber boots tend to rot out, after 60,000 miles or so.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 03:51 PM
  #12  
mikecox1's Avatar
mikecox1
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
I would bet you a hundred to one that the Idle Air Control Value (IAC) is sticking. Many on this board have had the same problem (myself included). It is a very common problem with our trucks. Do a search on this board and you will see just how common it is.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 03:55 PM
  #13  
mikecox1's Avatar
mikecox1
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Sorry, I didn't read to the end of your first post. I see that you already knew about the IAC.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 08:05 PM
  #14  
jden's Avatar
jden
New User
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Idle

Had the same problem--97 expy--Iac control valve. 10 mintue fix. Its located behind the throttle body. You might get lucky and get away with a cleaning.
 
Reply
Old May 28, 2005 | 09:02 PM
  #15  
boxdoc2's Avatar
boxdoc2
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Shawnee KS
Well as an update I changed the fuel filter. Might have helped a little bit, but it's still idling funny. I looked for the IAC, but didn't really know what I was looking for. I'll look again and probably change it out or clean it. Anone got a photo I can look at? I sure appreciate everyone's tips!! Thanks!
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:48 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE