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Old May 11, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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NADA Guide Useless

Is it just me or is the NADA guide a complete joke? Of course the market is what is the real price of a vehicle but Nada is almost always off by 50% or more than "real" pricing. One would be do better just picking numbers out of a hat than using nada.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Any vehicle over 12 months old. The value is set by: the local auto auction(1-5 yrs old) or what a compareable vehicle will sell for.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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I always laugh when somebody quotes kbb or nada when they list their inflated asking price for a rig. Those guides are only useful if you're trying to get your insurance company to cough up more cash for your totalled vehicle.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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yeah, 90 percent of the time the prices are way to high, unless your selling a geo metro!! Blue book is like a grand, i sold my bros for him while he's in alaska for 2800 cash in a week- and he got a good deal. next guy to come allong would have paid my asking price- 3200.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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My bank uses the NADA guide to determine loan values on vehicles. I don't think banks are in the business of blindly handing out cash based on over inflated values.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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My bank uses the NADA guide to determine loan values on vehicles. I don't think banks are in the business of blindly handing out cash based on over inflated values.
You're right, banks don't blindly hand out cash. Banks are in business to make money. They make loan decisions 99% based on your ability to pay them back, not what the item is worth. If you borrow more than the item is worth and pay off your loan, the bank makes more money.

Banks don't want cars from loan defaults - they almost always lose money on them.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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hey oppy, is your avatar from the movie "jack the giant killer"?
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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hey oppy, is your avatar from the movie "jack the giant killer"?
Dang, I don't know. I found it on some obscure website awhile ago when I did a search for "cyclops". I'll send the jpeg to you if you want it.
 
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please no! it had to be the stupidest movie ive ever seen- father in law made all the kids watch it and we happened to be over... big mistake... the giant (your cyclops) was pretty cool besides the fact that it was a clay-mation and the people were regular people... really old movies are like that i guess...
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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that pic is from the movie jason and the argonauts
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Well, I did me some checking and I didn't come up with anything conclusive, but I did find one interesting factoid: the same guy did the special effects for both of those movies! Weird, huh? It's entirely possible he used basically the same model for both of them.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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That was Ray Harryhousen......He was a "pioneer" of minitures and "stop animation" in the days before star wars and LucasArts....that was the way special effects were done then......I think one of his last film projects was "Clash of the Titans"

Sorry to go off topic!
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by oppy
They make loan decisions 99% based on your ability to pay them back, not what the item is worth. If you borrow more than the item is worth and pay off your loan, the bank makes more money.
Without ability to payback there is no loan. Now, assuming ability to payback is not an issue, my bank will loan any amount up to what the NADA says it's worth. Not a penny more. The NADA is not useless.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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The problem is that both kbb and nada uses the selling price from new car dealers to set the prices - exceptional trucks, very well qualified buyers, and in-house financing.

Works OK on late model stuff, but falls apart on the vintage trucks. Just not enough sales to get a good average.
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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That's probably right. If you think about it, auto dealers need used car values to go down so folks will pay new car prices. But they can only go down so much which is probably partly the reason new car prices are shooting up. NADA stands for National Automobile Dealers Association. It's an association of auto dealers setting the prices for everyone else. Hmmmmm.
 
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