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Old May 8, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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When you apply the brakes the steering wheel will shake, and the truck would viberate a little. We took it to the Ford dealership to have them look at it and they said that the problem was that the rotors were warped and that they would charge 478.00 to TURN the rotors, well we declined the repair and they charged us a $67.00 diagnosis fee. Yesterday we changed the front rotors and the ones that were on it did not appear to be warped at all, we looked and even measued. My question is what else could cause this, I have not had a chance to see if the changing the rotors helped because you need to heat up the brakes before the viberation occures.


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Old May 8, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Wow! which dealer was that!? You can get them turned at Pep-Boys for under $10 each!
 
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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When they say they are warped it is not apparent to the eye, you have to use a dial caliper and check for run-out, as little as .020 thousandths will get a shake/ shimmy, I take them to a local garage off the vehicle and get them turned for $5.00 each, we had a t-bird with inherent brake warpage, always kept a spare rotor set in the garage ready to go.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Holy cow. I did a complete brake service (4 new rotors, pads, etc) for less than $478! When I bought mine it had badly warped rotors, not to mention the rear pads were about two stops away from nothing. When you applied the brake, the pedal and the steering wheel would pulsate, sometimes violently. Put in new pads and rotors (for about $450 in parts, did the labor myself) and it completely solved the problem.

Craig is right, you won't be able to see or even measure the warped rotors without special tools. A micrometer would be one way, but even then it'll be hard to tell. A run-out indicator would also tell you, but only a specialized mechanic would really have one of those.

IMHO Fords have had a problem with the brakes warping since the late '80s. I don't know why, but even with aftermarket parts I've had at least four Fords with warped rotors. I've probably driven HUNDREDS of others with the same problem. Seems to be a problem of too small brakes to handle the job and they overheat and warp easily. That and pinging engines are my two pet peeves with late-model fords. Four out of the last 5 Fords I've owned had problems with pinging.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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I had the same problem and I replaced the rotors along with the brake pads. I still had the same problem and when I replaced the tires the shaking issue went away. The tires that were on the car previously were balanced but I assume they must of have slight uneven wear. The price quote you got from Ford was high... but I know some of the area shops charge more to pull the rotors because of how difficult they are to get off. I actually destroyed both front rotors when trying remove them. Autozone has new rotors for $25 a piece for front and $32 for the rear.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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Look at your wheel play. Jack it up and try to wiggle the wheel. If this is positive then there is a problem in the system, wheel bearings or ball joints.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Also, a broken belt in a steel belted radial tire will give the same shimmy under braking.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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atrident, reading the original post it is when the brakes are applied, if it was loose front end parts he would have a loose condition all the time, not just when brakes are applied.
 
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Originally Posted by JerNla
When you apply the brakes the steering wheel will shake, and the truck would viberate a little. We took it to the Ford dealership to have them look at it and they said that the problem was that the rotors were warped and that they would charge 478.00 to TURN the rotors, well we declined the repair and they charged us a $67.00 diagnosis fee. Yesterday we changed the front rotors and the ones that were on it did not appear to be warped at all, we looked and even measued. My question is what else could cause this, I have not had a chance to see if the changing the rotors helped because you need to heat up the brakes before the viberation occures.


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I had the same problem on my 03 Expedition with 33,000 miles on it and the dealer replaced the front rotors. The problem still existed after that so they turned the rear rotors and that solved the problem. Did you have them check the rear rotors? Good luck.
 
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