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Old May 7, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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99-99.5?

How can I tell buy looking at the truck if it's any early 99 or a 99.5? Also is there any HP ot TQ diff between the two.

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Old May 7, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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There was a period where the Superduty "morphed" from an "early 99" to a "late 99". Over that 2-3 month period, there were some components of each. One easy way to tell if it's an early 99 is by engine build date, but that's a little hard to find. If it's an automatic, you can tell the early 99's by the loud torque convertor.
 
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Old May 8, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadzilla
There was a period where the Superduty "morphed" from an "early 99" to a "late 99". Over that 2-3 month period, there were some components of each. One easy way to tell if it's an early 99 is by engine build date, but that's a little hard to find. If it's an automatic, you can tell the early 99's by the loud torque convertor.
what do you mean about the torque convertor?
 
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Old May 8, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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The early 99's had a torque convertor that rattles very loudly until it locks, then it quiets down. My son-in-law's truck sounds like the tranny is going to fall out until he gets up to 35mph.
That model year is the only one that does it.
 
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Yea, the early '99 have a double disc TC, the late '99 and on went with a single disc, mostly because it's a LOT quieter.
 
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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I believe that the early 99's also had the powerstroke emblem on the top front of the fender, just like the gassers did, exept it said powerstroke, over the V8 symbol, the 99.5's and later had it on the door like all the other SD diesels do.


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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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I believe that the early 99's also had the powerstroke emblem on the top front of the fender, just like the gassers did, exept it said powerstroke, over the V8 symbol, the 99.5's and later had it on the door like all the other SD diesels do.
Pretty much true. As Ford decided to "morph" from the early 99 to the late 99, they apparently waited until they ran out of the "old" parts before switching to the "new" ones. That's why the morph took three months.
In a thread on another forum, the differences between the two was discussed. A number of people chimed in, stating that they had two or three of the old characteristics, and a few of the new ones. Others also only had part of the update, but many had a different mix than others did.
 
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Quad, isn't there something about the intakes plenums on the heads being different sizes, the later's had bigger plenums.

I think I read that thread, but didn't bookmark it.

Side note, how are those injectors doing, waiting on an update.

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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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I think the turbo is different also right?
 
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Old May 8, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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The turbo is different i beleive. Also i beleive the early 99's had an intake that got air from the fender area instead of drawing area from the front of the truck near the radiator like the 99.5 and up do.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 04:56 AM
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Side note, how are those injectors doing, waiting on an update.
I've had to put the injector swap on hold until I get moved to San Diego. I'm putting all my time into getting that done for now, then will pick up the injector project.
You guys are right about the turbo and intake plenum differences. There are others, too, but I don't profess to be an expert on all of them.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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Also on the early 99' you will get a wet air filter when it rains.. The correct oem air filter will have a prefilter on the unit.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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Thanks for the help guy's.

So for with out the VIN# or the build date it's not really precise on what year truck you are looking at.

I just test drove a 99 and the emblem is on the fender, but the turbo was not loud. As for the intake from what I have found on the net is that if the writing on the intake is in white letters it's a 99, and if in black letters it's a 99.5?

As for finding the build date on the door where shouild I look? I could not find any dates or anything on the latch side of any of the doors?

Next time I'm getting the VIN.

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Old May 9, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Mine is an early 99. The markings on the air intake are all black. I think wheel spindles, intake from fender and turbo type are differences. Maybe up to 10 hp more on the newer, but not sure.
 
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Old May 9, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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also forgot to mention with spindle differences come ABS sensor differences and brake differences. Good luck and happy shopping.
 
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