New tires new wheels new vibration.... (pics)
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New tires new wheels new vibration.... (pics)
After trying several different wheels on the truck to find one that fit and look good I bought a set of Eagle Alloy 195s in 17x8 with +14mm offset and 285/70/17 Goodyear MTRs. The problem is now the truck vibrates whenever I go 55-65mph. For a couple weeks now the shop I got them from has been trying to fix this but with minimal effect. First they turned the tires on the rim until they found the orientation that allowed them to add the least amount of weight in order to balance them. This took a long time and a lot of work. Then hub rings where installed. Today they replaced one of the tires because it had a very slight wobble barely visible when spun on the balance machine but after driving it home I returned to the shop because this did nothing. So the only other thing we could do is order a different set of tires, BFG all terrains this time. This is getting ridiculous I really don’t understand why this is such a problem with these trucks. I asked the guy at the tire shop if he has had this happen with other new style f150s? His reply “Yes, several.” I asked how many times this will happen before they stop dealing with these trucks and start turning away customers that bring them in? His reply “If we can’t get yours to stop vibrating it will be the last.”
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A machine is only as good as it's operator. Get them road force balanced somewhere that hasn't got a vested interest in blowing smoke up your rear.
I have purchased defective tires, from the maker, and I have seen guys spend three days on the 'best balance machine' in the world, and have no success. Tire was out of round. It wasn't till I had someone else check it that we found the problem. Michelin stepped up to the plate with a free shipped new tire, but it cost me a week's hassle.
This was on another vehicle, not my truck.
Go somewhere else. If the
guy can't balance it, and tells you it's the brand truck, run like haydes.
Chris
I have purchased defective tires, from the maker, and I have seen guys spend three days on the 'best balance machine' in the world, and have no success. Tire was out of round. It wasn't till I had someone else check it that we found the problem. Michelin stepped up to the plate with a free shipped new tire, but it cost me a week's hassle.
This was on another vehicle, not my truck.
Go somewhere else. If the
guy can't balance it, and tells you it's the brand truck, run like haydes.
Chris
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The rims are lug centric but with the addition of the hub rings mentioned in the original post they are now hub centric. The hub rings were added at the recommendation of the wheel manufacturer. Why they make a wheel in this lug pattern and offset but didn’t design it as a hub centric we may never know.
Chris, I know what you mean about the operator and I know this guy has his act together, I have bought several sets of tires from them over the years and the guy that’s worked on my truck has been at this shop for years I have dealt with him before no smoke and no rears involved.
If on the other hand it was some high school kid who just started working there I may have some doubts but if that was the case I wouldn’t let him work on my truck. The tire guy isn’t the one raising questions about Ford’s ability to build a truck that would be my role in this scenario. After seeing online all the people that like me have put down there hard earned money for a vehicle that appears to be lacking and not getting any satisfaction from there local service department or Ford I question whether I will ever buy another Ford product again. With me this truck could be Fords second strike because I have already gone through this with another one of there products. GM has little chance of seeing another dime of my money for the same reasons. As for the tires being out of round or some other problem with the Goodyears that is why we ordered the BFG allterrains. I’m not totally convinced that road force balancing is the only way this is going to be resolved. The equipment this shop is using can tell if a tire is out of round or is not true within tight enough tolerance that if it doesn’t show up on the equipment it shouldn’t be a problem on the truck. That said I will try road force balancing them before I give up and put the stock wheels back on.
Chris, I know what you mean about the operator and I know this guy has his act together, I have bought several sets of tires from them over the years and the guy that’s worked on my truck has been at this shop for years I have dealt with him before no smoke and no rears involved.
If on the other hand it was some high school kid who just started working there I may have some doubts but if that was the case I wouldn’t let him work on my truck. The tire guy isn’t the one raising questions about Ford’s ability to build a truck that would be my role in this scenario. After seeing online all the people that like me have put down there hard earned money for a vehicle that appears to be lacking and not getting any satisfaction from there local service department or Ford I question whether I will ever buy another Ford product again. With me this truck could be Fords second strike because I have already gone through this with another one of there products. GM has little chance of seeing another dime of my money for the same reasons. As for the tires being out of round or some other problem with the Goodyears that is why we ordered the BFG allterrains. I’m not totally convinced that road force balancing is the only way this is going to be resolved. The equipment this shop is using can tell if a tire is out of round or is not true within tight enough tolerance that if it doesn’t show up on the equipment it shouldn’t be a problem on the truck. That said I will try road force balancing them before I give up and put the stock wheels back on.Last edited by Ballistic F150; May 7, 2005 at 12:59 AM.
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Hope it works out. As to the brand, etc. The tire that was my problem child was the best Z-rated tire in the country, at that time. It didn't show any thing on their equipment, but when installed on my Vette rear I had a vibration. Bad. You can't swap that kind of tire around so they tried to convience me that the suspension was bad in the vette. I had just put in the neopreme bushings, Mono leaf, Koni's etc. and it handled great, or at least as great as H rated Goodyears would allow. Put on the Z-rated, (150 bucks a pop, wholesale) and wam, instant viberation. So I stood my ground till it was fixed. Michelin admitted the problem, based on my description to the rep, and shipped me a tire, to swap. No charge, and told me to toss the old tire. Old meaning 100 miles. I cut it with a knife and tossed it in my dumpster. With the new tire, the car handled great. No vibs.
So even a good company can make a clunker part.
Well, again, good luck.
Chris
So even a good company can make a clunker part.
Well, again, good luck.
Chris
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[QUOTE=Ballistic F150]I asked about the road force balance and the equipment they have is supposed to be more advanced than that. It is a national chain with the latest and greatest.
The Hunter GSP 9700 is the latest and greatest Road Force Balance Machine. If they aren't using that piece of equipment, they probably won't get it right for you.
The Hunter GSP 9700 is the latest and greatest Road Force Balance Machine. If they aren't using that piece of equipment, they probably won't get it right for you.
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I just put the Eagle series 187 on my 2004 f-150 on Monday, they are 17x9, with Goodyear MTR's 305/70R17's. I have no vibration at all, a lot of road noise now, but thats it. That sucks, I hope you find the problem.
I just put the Eagle series 187 on my 2004 f-150 on Monday, they are 17x9, with Goodyear MTR's 305/70R17's. I have no vibration at all, a lot of road noise now, but thats it. That sucks, I hope you find the problem.
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Did you level your truck first to run those tires?
I can not tell from the pics.
I have no idea how I hear so many people have vibration and I have a XL thats a early build and a XLT 4x4 with a build of 10-04 and neather one has that issue.
The XL has 25000 and the XLT has 5800 and I have taken the XLT cross country once.
PS, Nice truck, looks almost like mine.
I can not tell from the pics.
I have no idea how I hear so many people have vibration and I have a XL thats a early build and a XLT 4x4 with a build of 10-04 and neather one has that issue.
The XL has 25000 and the XLT has 5800 and I have taken the XLT cross country once.
PS, Nice truck, looks almost like mine.
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Originally Posted by New2004Lariat
The Hunter GSP 9700 is the latest and greatest Road Force Balance Machine.
Originally Posted by VBigFord20
Did you level your truck first to run those tires?
No, I haven’t leveled it yet. I am waiting to see how the vibration thing plays out before I do that.
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Well I called around and the only place in town with the road force balancing equipment is the ford dealer and they want $70 to do my truck. 
This seems kind of high to me what has everybody that has done this paid for it if anything?
I also talked to the guys at the tire shop where I bought my wheels and tires about spending $70 on road force balancing and asked if they would be willing to pay for it. Long story short I am taking the truck in to the dealer on Monday and the tire store is paying for it.
I will post the results.
This seems kind of high to me what has everybody that has done this paid for it if anything? I also talked to the guys at the tire shop where I bought my wheels and tires about spending $70 on road force balancing and asked if they would be willing to pay for it. Long story short I am taking the truck in to the dealer on Monday and the tire store is paying for it.
I will post the results.
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Road force
The dealer I work at has the hunter 9700 balencer and it is a great machine it has solved more vibration problems then anything else. I can't count the number of tires on f150 that have been warrenty with high road force. I had to replace 2 tires the other day. road force failed on the two brand new tires.
hunter also has a web site with a locator of shops that have the 9700 machine. check it out http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm
hunter also has a web site with a locator of shops that have the 9700 machine. check it out http://www.gsp9700.com/pub/search/findgsp9700.cfm
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Thanks 4.6Ranger for posting that locator I was looking for one of those the other day but gave up and started calling around. It show’s a few places I didn’t call that have the equipment.
So you have used this equipment? Could you give me a run down on the process? What do you mean
So you have used this equipment? Could you give me a run down on the process? What do you mean
road force failed on the two brand new tires.