off road diesle ?
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So t_...I wonder who these unfortunate souls would blame if they do get caught and get slapped with a huge fine that they obviously can ill afford? What other taxes are they not paying?
Don't get me wrong...nothing political intended here BTW. You do what you have to do , when you have to it. There have been periods in my past when I couldn't rub two nickels together either. So I know.
I also know that some of the folks (whether in Montana or the Appalachians) are barley getting by...by cutting back on the amount of cigarettes and beer they consume each day while they keep their diesel trucks capped off with Ag fuels.
We all have choices to make and the potential often exists for consequences to slap us right upside the head. I don't particularly condemn those who use the red dye fuels for any reason. I just don't want them to stand in front of the court house crying about how the system has done 'em wrong.
Don't get me wrong...nothing political intended here BTW. You do what you have to do , when you have to it. There have been periods in my past when I couldn't rub two nickels together either. So I know.
I also know that some of the folks (whether in Montana or the Appalachians) are barley getting by...by cutting back on the amount of cigarettes and beer they consume each day while they keep their diesel trucks capped off with Ag fuels.
We all have choices to make and the potential often exists for consequences to slap us right upside the head. I don't particularly condemn those who use the red dye fuels for any reason. I just don't want them to stand in front of the court house crying about how the system has done 'em wrong.
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From: New Jersey
...and on the more technical side, the sulfur content will not harm the fuel system because sulfur has lubricating properties. Sulfur in diesels effects the engine by producing sulfur dioxide which negatively affects the engine oil and reduces the effectiveness of the new pollution controls, specifically the catalytic converters. From all of the reading I have done on the subject I cannot determine if the sulfur itself creates much of the particulate emissions or if it's affect on the catalysts that is the issue. Any way, my point is that with the newer engines coming out in 2007 with the new tighter emissions standards, using off road fuel is an even bigger risk due to the "unknown quality" and sulfur content. Aside from that, the sulfur content in all diesel fuel will be reduced 99% by the year 2010.
I think the fine in NJ for using off road diesel fuel in a registered passenger vehicle is $25,000.
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I think the fine in NJ for using off road diesel fuel in a registered passenger vehicle is $25,000.
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From: Lake Fork (WoodCo.) TX
Originally Posted by rjd04powerstroke
any of u guys running off road diesle in ur trucks and is there any differance between the 2 diesles i am just wondering because i know some guys that say its the same stuff just not taxed and dyed thanks for any help
Yes, there are folks that are running off-road diesel in their trucks.
Is there a difference, yes and no, it varies with different parts of the country and it varies from state to state. ie. Some states allow for the distributor to take a load of undyed diesel to the rancher's or farmers drop point, then inject the dye directly into the fuel. I'm told that one drop takes care of about 100 gals. Other states require the fuel be dyed before being transferred from the tanker.
Some states have cold weather additives while other states don't.
Once you run just one tank of dyed diesel it will take forever to get it out of the system. The dye will stay in the system filters, pumps, controls and just about anywhere the fuel flows, for a long time.
I read an article some time back where several states allow for the AG folks to stop trucks at random to check for dyed diesel. And as was stated it's a big $$$ fine. When the feds get involved, it's the same thing as "income tax evasion". It's just not worth it.
