i have been kicking myself around and debating on this for a while now and i am just gonna hash it out here with you guys.

i know in a standard doubler system you use something like a NP203 range box in front (bolted to the tranny) of your existing t-case and then the NP205 is then bolted to the output of the 203.

NOW.... what if, you took a drivetrain (we'll refer to mine for simplicity) that is pretty much standard. I have a 460 mill bolted up to a C6, thats then bolted to a Ford drop, stock NP205... SO... what would happen if i bolted another 205 behind my existing one only it would be of the divorced nature! now i know you guys think i am crazy for thinking this b/c the 205 are 180lbs a piece but i figure i shed the bed which is well over 180 lbs so its not really that bad, more like a tradeoff!

i would have an alternate PTO port, hell i could run 3 PTO's, lol, if i wanted!

whats everyones thoughts?

-cutts-

 

What i've always thought of doing is to use a np208, then upgrade the yokes on both cases to 1410's, then beening very careful, mount the 205 (divorced) directly to the 205, so as to keep that extra shaft out of there (granted that joint is going to be a pain in the butt to changed but is the x-members are connected right you could loosen the bolts off the205 and slide it back).

This way you get the 2.71 low range of the 208, the light weight of it vs. a 205 weight.

For a pto you could just use the front output of the 208, but the 205 would have to be twinsticked to allow various operations. But the 208 would need to be clocked up so as to avoid any driveshaft clearence problems. Plus if you break the 205 somehow you could swap the front shaft to the 208 to get you home .

Just my .02 cents.

 

Fishy, you are always thinkin man! I love it! LOL

I'd send ya my 203 in a heartbeat if I didn't have future plans for it with my next build up

 

i have ruled out the 203 due to the fact the adpater is fricking $600... i can't afford that not on my teeny college budget! do you know how long it took me to get my hydro assist in? 2 months dammit!!!!

lol you have no idea! the projects i am CURRENTLY working on include the following: ( i am bad about starting something and then not finsihing it)

~OBA, got the york 210 mounted and rebuilt... got a set of tanks, just need everything to plumb it all up
~i pulled my rear stock F250 springs in favor of a set of F150 leafs without the overload... next i am pulling the skyjacker 6" lift leafs up front and swapping in my stock rear leafs! so far it flexes AWESOME, i will be building some ladder bars for it! of course this includes me having to build my 5th set of shackles and mounts
~got all my homebuilt snorkel installed, just trying to find a way to hold it down so when i jump my truck it won't fly off the carb!
~i have my bronco gutted and am working on getting a full cage in it.
~trying to get ahold of a C4 with 4x4 houising for the bronc as well
~homebrew (no pun) fuel cell from 2 small kegs!
~and a set of stacks for my powastwoke

-cutts-

 

Ya know, that's just simple enough to work. I'd center the final T-case so that I could run the same length driveshafts front and back. It's relatively cheap to have a shaft shortened and rebalanced, have 3 rear shafts done so one spare could fit either end. Having a longer shaft up front should also help the angles there.

FWIW, my shortbed lost 500 lbs when I removed the double wall bed and installed a single wall step side. That 500 lbs was confirmed at the scrap yard scale.

 

whats a asingle wall stepside

 

Regular beds have an inner and outer skin ( double wall construction) and the stepsides were made with a single flat sheet of metal with the fenders bolted on.

Plus the stepside looks so much cooler.

Chris

 

don't dodge 205's have the round pattern to bolt up to the ford adaptor? dodge mated 205 to ford tranny then divorced 205 behind that. then your output on the front 205 is on the passenger side.

but I would vote for the 203/205 doubler. along with a 435

 

sounds like an excellent way to swap off 1410 series yokes and snap your short driveshafts.

the first 205 would be fine, but the output into the 2nd input sounds like destruction.

 

Fish...what were you going to use in place of your bed? Just take it off and leave it at that or what?

 

Amen to the flareside, thats why i love my 82 pavement pounder. Oh and you can make the flareside beds even lighter by changing the wood floor out to 1/4" aluninum diamond plate (this is what i'm doing to mine , looks cooler than the old pine and is cheaper than an oak bed).

Hey cutts you be willing to sell those front leafs, as i need a set for my budget bogger as both the one ton donor truck (finally got some pictures to post up in another thread) and the old leafs are toast, if you are willing to sell those skyjacker leafs cutts send me a pm .

 

thats EXACTLY what i was thinking! then i could be cool like jopey AND be able to keep my kydneys

well my plans are to one day build a roll cage inside and extend it out the back... a lot like whiteknight, and then turn it into a flat bed. but for now since i am a poor, jobless college kid i will make do with no bed, bare frame for now!

aight man, i will have to see first b/c i might be able to use them in the bronco! give me a few weeks (i am slow!!!)

now guys lets try and keep this fairly simple. all i am talking about doing is adding an np205 (that i already have) behind my existing one. does anyone see any problems that i might be overlooking?

basically to engage regular 4hi put both cases in 4 hi.... then to engage regular 4 lo engage the forward case in lo and the rear one in hi. and lastly to engage double low i would engage both cases in low (which would be 3.84 total gear reduction right?) the only downfall to this setup is i wouldn't be able to use my twinstick with double low range... doubt it would be a problem but still something to think about

-cutts-

 

and if he doesnt buy them, I will - of course, if you are selling them...and he has first dibs

 

lol i'll keep that in mind!

-cutts-

 

Well the only major problem with this setup (i like the dodge 205 idea, that way no clearence problems with the driveshaft) is the extra driveshaft and 2 extra u-joints, granted its no different than what pro is running with a divorce t-case on the older trucks, but its still an extra shaft to worry about.

The other problem is getting all the linkage run properly so it wouldn't bind, but if that was done i think it would be a good cheap way to go till a say a 203 double adapter could be bought, but i like the fact that you can use the front t-case front output as a pto, use a 205, twin stick it and you'd be good to go. With the shifting options, basically you have all the same as before, just doubled, you twinsticked operations wouldn't be affected, you just get an extra low range in addition to all the options you already have. In reality this is the same thing as if you added an aux. tranny like the semi's use.

Yeah i'm in no big hurry about them springs cutts, i wouldn't be able to use them till the end of may, and there is also a couple big swap meets i'm going to as well that i might pick a set up at.