I just bought my first diesel (04 F350 fx crew cab) and love it. I will be towing a 12,000 lb, 35 ft. 5th wheel and was doing a little research on these tuners etc. I'm not even sure if I will need one or not. I've noticed alot of push on the Superchips Tuners on here, but so far have not seen any mention of Banks stuff. I was at a truck place the other day, and the guys gave me a pamphlet on the Banks Hog and/or Six Pack Tuner/Exhaust combo. Any comments?

 

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Do a search on the word "Banks" you will see for yourself why the term is not mentioned much.


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Your noticing the SCMT because it is probably the best tuner out on the market right now that gives you HP plus takes care of the transmission. You can upgrade to a cat-back exhaust and pyro gauge. Some owners tow on the lower setting with stock exhaust.

The Banks can be purchased as a complete system, and is over rated. Once installed you would have to remove the added on fuel box for dealer service. Banks is a well known company but fails on being the best or backing the product they sell.

Just my Opinion.

 

All of the chips and boxes have their pros and cons! I have run the Edge/Atitude, it was excellent in the power department but lacked tranny control (resulting in a fried transmission, however tranny rebuilder suspected a faulty solenoid). I run the SCT right now and just had the Suncoast extreme kit with the triple clutch converter installed allong with a new sun shell (steel not aluminum) and sun gears replaced with a cottered unit. I will be reinstalling the Edge/Attitude with the SCT soon.

 

Woah now---need more details--- did this come from suncoast? I guess you are referring to the low/reverse planetary?

Ahhh...if I am assuming right, it is quite refreshing to know that more and more good performance parts are coming around

 

Maxium Are you sure the SCMT does anything to the trans other than change pressures? I was told but don't know for fact that they don't.When my second trans went out I took the SCMT off and sold it.I was told it allso needes to have a shift kit installed with the SCMT.I called SCMT on this and they would never get back to me.

Just my 2c worth

 

It absolutely does; as a matter of fact the pressure is only a minimal part of the shifting changes (unlike some others). The most important changes come from alterations in the calculated slip time tables, which in turn essentially open the solenoids faster for a firmer shift, even at identical pressures. These transmission's dont like to swallow tremendous line pressure- go too much, and it won't shift at all- the solenoid will just make noises. The 3-5 upshift is mainly where the line pressure is a real issue, as the direct drive solenoid doesn't like pressure at all.

I can assure you the SCMT is not what killed the transmission (unless you were stalling it in excess of 2200 rpms); it was most likely the reverse planetary problem or the snap ring- the 05 trannys have by far been the worst so far.

BTW, there is no such thing as a "shift kit" with a 5R110 transmission. There is no valve body, accumulators, or any other mechanical pressure devices, other than the shift solenoids and pressure regulator itself. There are two ways to make the transmission shift firmer - raise the line pressure, or change the calculated slip time. The SCMT does just about all you can do without a high performance overhaul, especially for an out-of-the-box tuner. If it didn't save your transmission, I can assure you that there are no other off-the-shelf products that will.

Are/Have you running/run anything else besides the SCMT?

 

Now....back to why you see more on the SCMT is quite clear. Adding the Edge fuel box to the mix is another subject.

Only The SCMT takes care of the transmission. Some tuners bump the line pressure and most added on boxes de-fuel when it detects the transmission slipping.

I am to old and lazy to unhook all those wires when I go back to dealer service as all I do is flash the truck back to stock in under 7 minutes.

If Edge, Bully Dog, Banks, or Instigator could ever figure out how to control the transmission.....I would give them a fair shot.

firesoutmatt......Is the SCMT the only programmer or fuel module you ever had installed on your truck? It is not rocket science that someday you will have to rebuild the transmission. I think your question on "shift kits" was answered.

 

Fastest1 I am curious. You have a SCT programmer? Why would you reinstall the EDGE module stacked with SCT for transmission files? New files are out for the SCT progammer that far out perform the Edge module. Or are you stacking?...

 

IMO, the beauty of the SCMT is the total driveability of the tune. Under light throttle you would never know the tune is there except for the increased fuel mileage. Get into it heavy and WHOOPEE!!!!!

 

Yes I will be running the Edge/Attitude stacked with the SCT. I have tried the SCT (with the newest files) in the performance setting and it was impressive but not as much pull as the Edge. Spool up is slower with the SCT also but shifting and elimination of speed and traction control is wonderful. The steel sun shell and planetary was recommended by my transmission shop and is apparently readily available. Could it be a 4R part? It shifts hard now which is fine however it gets into the higher gears quicker also so acceleration isnt as stout from a cruising speed. The edge will probably bring most of that back. Does the SCT defuel on shifts? It feels like it does but I am not sure. It shifts much quicker now and seems like the defuel must be shorter than the edge. Or maybe it is the tranny kit?

 

I should have made it more clear in my response .It was my 01 PSD that I had the issues with not my new 05 sorry about that.I will not put a programmer on the 05 .It has plenty of power and better fuel mileage that I could ever had with my 01.