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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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I have a '67 with a 302. When I start my engine, it sounds like my starter is not disengaging. I've replaced the starter, solenoid, and the wire from the solenoid to the starter. I also tried spraying graphite lubricant into the ingition even sprayed some WD40 in the ingition and it still doesn't disengage.

Anybody have any ideas on what else i can do to fix this? It's driving me crazy

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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It maybe that the ingition switch is bad and not disengaging. Sounds like you've replaced everything else, the switch is only about $20.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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If your starter and solenoid are new and the starter is properly installed (that uper bolt is a toughy) then it might be your flywheel ring gear. It could be binding the starter. Good luck.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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You may need to shim the starter. Does it sound like it is scraping on a hollow metal trash can when you crank it over? If you don't have any shims go to your local parts store and ask for them, they will have them in the help p[arts section.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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My starter would not turn the motor over so I pulled it out and on the bench it would work perfect. Twice times I did this and on the last time it would not turn over as it had a short in it in one spot. Another time I bought a used Comet with a 302 and in the cold weather it would not turn the engine over with out alot of grinding. Found out that someone had put in the wrong starter that was slightly shorter and would not reach into the ring gear far enough. It would worked better in the summer when it was warmer out.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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I know the flywheel/ring gear are good, i just put in a new transmission a few months ago. I think i'll try operating the starter off the engine in the off chance i got a bad replacement. I'm also going to look at the ingition switch.

THanks for the input!!!!

I'll let you know how it turns it out.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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You did not say how this happen. OR has it been doing this off and on?
If you hear the solenoid clicking then your ingition switch is working
Start the engine up and remove the small wire on solenoid (S) this goes to your ingition switch for starting. If you think the ingition switch is hanging up.
Or it this all happen after you worked on the Trans.Or someone has worked on the starter that didn't know what they were doing.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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well, a new ignition switch wasn't the answer. But replacing the old ignition switch while keeping the old key cylinder was an adventure (now i know what that little hole on the ingnition is).
I pulled the starter and evidentally i was given the wrong starter. there is a "bump" that has nearly been grinded off by my flywheel. Fortunatley my ring gear appears undamaged, so getting the correct starter should be the answer. Strange it bolted up and worked without any problems (other than the grinding noise).
Boy do i feel stupid

 
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Back to old school... Look at the old & New part side by side checking if it's the right part .You lucked out!
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cardio75
well, a new ignition switch wasn't the answer. But replacing the old ignition switch while keeping the old key cylinder was an adventure (now i know what that little hole on the ingnition is).
I pulled the starter and evidentally i was given the wrong starter. there is a "bump" that has nearly been grinded off by my flywheel. Fortunatley my ring gear appears undamaged, so getting the correct starter should be the answer. Strange it bolted up and worked without any problems (other than the grinding noise).
Boy do i feel stupid

It probably is not the wrong starter if it bolted on. It needs a shim or two if you don't have any on it now. The shims go inbetween the starter and the bellhousing to adjust the starter to the proper depth so it doesn't rub on the flywheel and so that the gear can retract far enough to disenguage from the ring gear teeth.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Ford used four different starters on these trucks- the FE's had a three bolt pattern, with different nose lengths for manual and auto, while small blocks (six cylinder included) had a two bolt pattern, again with one length for the manual, and one for the auto. If you have to shim the starter, it's either incorrect, or the motor plate that goes between the engine and transmission is missing. This can cause massive damage to the transmission, so it should be replaced.
BTW, there is less than 1/8" difference in length between each style of starter.
 
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