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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:55 AM
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Play in the drive train ?

I hope I can explain this well enough, here goes:

When I start from a dead stop there seems to be a feeling like the truck is "picking up slack" in the drive train. I haven't had this truck too long, so I don't know if it has done it all along. It doesn't make any noise or anything and shifts smoothly and there isn't any feel like a U-joint. There just seems to be some play.

It is an '02 F250 PSD CC SB 4X4.

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Frank
 

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:24 AM
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you may be experiencing "turbo lag".???
 
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Your problem is probably caused by the splines that allow the driveshaft to lengthen or shorten. When they do not have enough grease on them they start to do what you are explaining. I lubed mine a while back, but I think it might be time to do it again. It's too bad there is not a grease zerk to the splines. You have to take the driveshaft apart and lube by hand.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Your problem is probably caused by the splines that allow the driveshaft to lengthen or shorten. When they do not have enough grease on them they start to do what you are explaining. I lubed mine a while back, but I think it might be time to do it again. It's too bad there is not a grease zerk to the splines. You have to take the driveshaft apart and lube by hand.
Yea - the infamous "Super Duty Clunk". You'll need teflon grease, it lasts longer and can take the constant "banging" of the splines. You could drill and tap for a grease fitting while you have it off...

Why did Ford do this? To eliminate the need for grease. Funny, ain't it?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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I did mine a month ago, per the recommendations of many on this site, it was bone dry. Greased it, no more clunk. 30 minute job.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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missouguy, i only mentioned the turbo lag, because you stated there
was no noise, and all was smooth. is this a delay after the engine rev's come up, or when you first hit the pedal?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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I have been wondering what that clunk is under my truck for a long time. Damn I shoulda asked. Hope nothing is wore out now, been clunking for like a year.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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I have been wondering what that clunk is under my truck for a long time. Damn I shoulda asked. Hope nothing is wore out now, been clunking for like a year.
Sad to say it, but yes, there is something worn out: The light coat of plastic that once acted as the dampner for the splines...

I have heard '99 models clunking for years. I even suggest that they lube the yoke, but they just shrug and don that mule-eating-saw-briars grin. If it will last through their ignorance, it should be fine. Just don't let it go too long.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by glafond
missouguy, i only mentioned the turbo lag, because you stated there
was no noise, and all was smooth. is this a delay after the engine rev's come up, or when you first hit the pedal?
There is no clunk. It is just something you feel. The pedal has that dead area all Fords seem to have, but it is after that it seems there is a hesitation for a milisecond before you feel forward motion. I just wish I could have one of you drive it. Maybe the ford guys can take a look. I will look for the smartest donkey.

Frank
 
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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All of the above is correct. Also don't forget this is a situation that you need to measure all the play in the driveline.Starting in the tranny,u-joints,slip joint in the drive shaft,the axle splines into the spyder gears and the backlash in the rear diff.As things wear over mileage the little delay will increase.
Also don't forget slippage inside the tranny.
Just a few comments on this rather old subject!

Rich
 
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Well, I crawled under the truck and tried to move the driveshaft checking for looseness, it didn't budge. Tight as a drum. What now?

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 03:50 AM
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No new ideas on this?

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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If its any consolation, my truck has the same feeling with no apparent problems. 30000 miles

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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Well, I crawled under the truck and tried to move the driveshaft checking for looseness, it didn't budge. Tight as a drum. What now?

Thanks

Frank
was the truck on level ground, blocked so it could not roll and in neutral. That should ensure the truck weight is not taking-up the slop. 1/4"(inch) turn is ok. also check for side to side slop in the u-joints.

having a brain fart, does the '02s use an electronic trottle? it does continuous self checks.(compares multiple potentiometers). there might be just be a small gap in the travel of the throttle in relation of the pots.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by missouguy
Well, I crawled under the truck and tried to move the driveshaft checking for looseness, it didn't budge. Tight as a drum. What now?

Thanks

Frank
You're not going to "feel" the slack (if it's there) just by twisting the shaft by hand. Remember the "clunk" is caused by a violent release. In that case you may have to take a pipe wrench and "make" it "clunk". But, it's a long shot.

Those of us familiar with that noise would know right off, but unfortunately we're not in that position. So, the best we can do is tell you to remove the shaft and grease the splines. If it goes away - that fixed it; if not look elsewhere.

Sorry, but that's about it. If you want to drive to New Boston, Texas, then I could hear it and give you a better idea...maybe.
 
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