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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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Question Will this work??

I am dismantling my F-250 and building a custom frame with a suspension system that I have designed and thought it might be helpful all around to mount the engine a little farther back. Could I put the cab of an E-350 on (with the interior engine cover) and have it mesh up with my front quarter panels and hood?...
 
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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I really doubt it. Van parts are normally mucho different than truck parts. Get out your measuring tape for sure though.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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That is a good question, as the doors are pretty close to the same shape, but it depends on the years of your truck and the donor van.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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maybe you could do something like the hummers and widen the body enough to get the motor between the seats. then just build a heat reflective box around the motor and you literally could sit next to it while driving. weight would be pretty evenly distributed. if anything i would get a super cab and put the supercab over the motor. just cut and trim as needed! very interesting concept!

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Sounds like a good rear-mount project to me

I am 99/9% sure they will not fit w/out extensive mods...but sounds like youre doing extensive mods anyways...so why the hell not?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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I thought about it some more today and I think I will look into firewall, floorboards, dash and seats from a similar year econoline and retro them into the F250 cab.

By the way...the suspension that I designed is a double A-frame on each wheel with 4 feet of independent travel per wheel. The diffs (front and rear) are mounted into the frame for as much ground clearance as possible. Will probably have 2 coil over struts per wheel, but am toying with modifying Formula-1 style suspension.

I am trying to engineer a viable system for lowering the truck IN THE FIELD so the tires come back up under the fenders for better handling when on road. I will try to convert my drawings to a format that I can post if anyone wants to help me think.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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That sounds interesting, you could print the drawing off and scan them, then post them up.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 05:40 AM
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What type of axle shaft are you planning on using with 4 feet of articulation? i'm unaware of any joint that will be able to handle the angles created by that much droop on that short of a shaft...
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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very good point, as the trophy trucks are running around 3ft of travel but they have a very high tech t-case to make the shafts live, but yeah 4ft of travel, how would you get that much travel?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Sounds like an H1 suspension to me but I just don't see how the hell 4 feet of articulation is possible. I'm not trying to shoot your ideas down but I'd like to see what you have in mind that makes this look possible. Pro monster trucks don't get that much articulation and I find it even more difficult with a system like your describing (sounds like independant suspension).
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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I thought most trophy trucks weren't even 4wd???
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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very good point, as the trophy trucks are running around 3ft of travel but they have a very high tech t-case to make the shafts live, but yeah 4ft of travel, how would you get that much travel?
I have drawn it up from every angle and have even modeled it. As long as I can get struts with just under 2 feet of travel it will work. If I can't find the right struts I will have to mount struts horizontally and use a cam (like Formula-1 suspension) and I would need very little strut travel. I will post my drawings so you can visualize it.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ivanribic
Sounds like an H1 suspension to me but I just don't see how the hell 4 feet of articulation is possible. I'm not trying to shoot your ideas down but I'd like to see what you have in mind that makes this look possible. Pro monster trucks don't get that much articulation and I find it even more difficult with a system like your describing (sounds like independant suspension).
If by H1 you mean Hummer, I'm not sure, but I will look into it. If you don't mean Hummer please let me know what you do mean as I would love to get more information on suspension. I know damn little about monster trucks, but I thought they ran a solid rear axel and lots of lift. On flat ground your clearance is the radius of your tire minus the amount your diff sets below that.

I will post drawings.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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what he was refering to is what kind of joint you are going to drive your tires with. even a double cv would bind at those kind of angles.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Yes, by H1 I meant Hummer. They are setup with a high diff, up in the frame, and independant suspension. But they don't have a lot of wheel travel as the independant suspension really limits things. I'll wait to see your drawings to see if it makes more sense to me then.
 
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