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Old Jan 14, 2001 | 12:17 AM
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Hey all,
So far I've spent too much on my exhaust for what I've gotten out of it, I had some random shop weld on a Flowmaster 40 Series muffler (loudest flowmaster for street use) and it was really really quiet with the original piping (since the flowmaster is a much smaller length than the stock muffler they had to install a section of pipe after the place where stock muffler was cut off so the tailpipe would exit in stock location and not hit the rear wheel) So I went to a more trusted muffler shop and asked them what I could do to make it louder, he said gimme $45 and 45 mins and it will be really loud, so I said ok and watched him work, he cut off the tailpipe right behind the muffler and put on a 3' peice of pipe and bent it down a bit (picture of it at my website below) now its pretty loud, but doesn't sound good, its just like a bass tone unless I really get on it (around 4k RPM it sounds like a bat outta h3ll with my K&N FIPK kit :-)

Uhm but yah, how would I go about getting a *thump thump thump thump* sound like a muscle car out of my truck?
ohh yah, 5.0L...5-speed, replaced upper and lower intake manifolds with larger ones, throttle body spacer, K&N FIPK, custom air box over the filter (I go mudding a lot...), and uhm, so other bolt ons, nothing special. Should I replace all of my piping with mendral bent pipes or just go with a American Thunder cat back flowmaster kit? I dont want to remove the cats, as I'll be selling this truck later this year and will have to get it smogged then...

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Old Jan 14, 2001 | 02:55 AM
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Try a glasspack. They are cheap too. You will probably want to go true duals to get the sound you want though.



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Old Jan 14, 2001 | 04:24 AM
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Try a set of headers, I have a set from summit racing, and it definitely changed the tone of mine after I installed them. My system has the two chamber flowmaster, a high flow cat, summit shorty headers (smog legal 50 states!), and a pair of 3.5" diameter 24 inch long chrome echo chamber tips. Mine will set off car alarms if it is a) close enough, or b) they have the sensitivity set to high!

But mine does have a good tone to it. It almost sounds as good as some of the 87-93 mustangs running around with flowmaster systems and high flow cats!

Don't know if that tells you anything or not, but I hope it does.....;-) ;-)

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Old Jan 14, 2001 | 11:17 PM
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Hotrod:
I too set off car alarms, if im driving through a parking lot ~10 mph in 2nd gear I can set off every car in the lot as I drive by...but that's not really what I want, LOL
Where did you get those echo chamber tips? Maybe I could get my rear exhaust section rebent and have it stick out in front of the rear wheel with one of those tips?

 
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Old Jan 14, 2001 | 11:35 PM
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I had mine put on at the muffler shop when they made up my exhaust system. My whole system (flowmaster single inlet/dual outlet, and two new tailpipes, and the tips) cost me a grand total of $235! That included all of the labor, the cost of the muffler, and the tips.

ruthfully if you are going to go for sound or looks, I would go with dual tips. I think it just doesn't look right with one tip coming out from under the rear bumper. I have heard some trucks down here around Houston Texas that are six cylinders with a glasspack and one (1) of the chrome tips like mine. They sound like a swarm of mad bumble bees in an empty 55 gallon drum.

Not to say anything bad about six cylinders but they need to make them sound better! I'll try to get a couple of pictures of my system today, and get them up on my website. I have a couple more I need to put up anyway.


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Old Jan 15, 2001 | 08:51 PM
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These trucks are quiet even without a muffler. I think the catalytic converters keep them quiet.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 12:46 AM
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Thats a pretty good deal..course mine was $140 with flowmaster 40 series (2 chamber) and all the labor...it just doesn't have the sound I like, I too agree on the sound of the six bangers, thats why I had to get a 5.0
I'd like my truck to sound like a mustang, I LUV the sound of my brothers (1993 LX 5.0L 5-speed ex-highway patrol coupe, not the hatchback) Course he runs 13.5 1/4 miles, but I still want the sound!

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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 12:58 AM
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Mine sounds almost like the mustangs. Of course it won't duplicate that sound because it isn't a true dual setup like the stang. But with the addition of the 3.5 inch tips, it deepened the tone a little bit. And of course I added the shorty headers which helped a lot more. Also, the high flow single cat was of a great help to the exhaust system as well.

If I had some way to get an audio file of it I would email it to you. I just don't really know how to do that.



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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 02:26 AM
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Kevin,

I had a brainstorm after looking at your truck. Very nice by the way! How well does your box sit behind the seat, if the seat is all the way back?

Anyway, back to my original brainstorm.

The reason our trucks don't have the lope. They are single exhaust. What I am saying here is, that the Mustang I used to have had straight pipes back to dual two chamber flowmasters and two turn downs right behind the rear pan.

That's why my car had the musclecar lope. Now, the newer mustangs have a crossover pipe, which harmonizes the exhaust pulses that sound like the lope.


I don't know if this makes any sense to you, but it made sense in my head while I was writing it out.

Give me a hollar off line if it doesn't, I'll try to explain it better. (I hope)


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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 07:05 PM
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The seat doesn't go all the way back, one "notch" forward if you have the manual sliding POS vinyl bench seat like me
Its kind of a cramp in the knees for me (6'4") but the way it improves the sound is worth it to me, I can take it out in like 5 minutes if I need to go on a long ride.

I know what you mean about the H-pipes...but I never noticed that they made a sound difference? I just thought they helped back pressure and therefore added some torque #'s back that all lost due to the straight pipes...
I've been trying to find an echo tip everywhere! Can't find one, all I can find are those stupid ricer resonating tips, and by resonating they lose engine sound but add decibels right? I want the engine sound!

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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 07:17 PM
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Mine are called echo tips, but what they really are (I should have explained better, sorry.) They are just plain tips. THey either come in Chromed steel, or stainless steel, in diamters of up to 5", and I think as long as 24".

I know alot of trucks where I am have them on them, and I guess we all just started calling them echo tips down here. Mainly because they make it resonate a little better.

I don't know if you can see it in the picture below, but look just to the left of center under the rear bumper. That's Identical to one of mine.

Sorry about all of te confusion.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1992_f150_7-3.jpg


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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 07:29 PM
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Ok so they are just tips that increase the size at the end, gotcha...I luv the license plate on that truck, heh "Trukman"
Alright now that I know what to look for, I dont think that's going to change the sound much on my truck...maybe gutting one of the cats and putting it back on would be my best bet?

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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 07:37 PM
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I would say that might be a possible solution. Especially since the cats on my truck, the front one came apart (the brick) and plugged the front of the rear convertor up.

I just put on a high flow cat and replaced both of them. Of course my whole system is now custom built. I imagine when they start really looking at exhaust systems down here in SE Texas they are going to have kittens when they look under my truck.

I replaced the front cat with a Flowmaster Y-Collector (now this piece has an offroad use only mark on flowmasters website), and then High flow cat, with the two chamber flowmaster and the dual tips.

Mine sounds really good, especially when I stomp on it. I have some really bad hesitation in mine. (I mean really bad. You press on the gas in second and it just stumbles and stammers along until it hits about 2300 when I shift it again.)

I have no clue whats causing that. Maybe just maybe I am thinking that the EGR tube is clogged up with carbon, and is causing the truck not to run right. I also know that this engine was calibrated for High Altitudes. So I am thinking that could be why it's not running up to snuff, maybe there were two different throttle bodies?



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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 07:41 PM
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Definatly possible about the 2 TB's
I know the EFI mustangs and EFI explorers with 5.0's have different sized TB's, I believe the mustang has a 60mm, and the explorer has 65mm, not sure on the #'s but the explorers is visually a LOT wider, actually the throttle cable moves in the opposite direction and on the oposite side (dunno if I described that right)

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Old Jan 16, 2001 | 08:09 PM
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Hi there,Just my two cents.
On the sound of my 93 flareside 5.0 I installed an Eldelbrock cat-back system and am very happy.At normal driving It sounds deep like a Mustang but without the lope.When I get on it,you defenitely have to talk louder in the cab. I don't know about outside the cab as nobody else drives my truck.I am told that it really sounds unique from the outside.The system was about 300$.It has a high flow muffler(I don't remember the model or series number) with a single inlet and a dual 3" outlet exiting under the bumper.The muffler is stainles and the pipes are flanged aluminized.From the muffler forward is stock,except for a K&N filter and an altered airbox. For what it's worth......Steve
 
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