Diesel Prices
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From: Upstate NY
yup, its crazy! Where is going to stop. I filled up today $2.31 a gallon in upstate NY. Prices here range from 2.31 to 2.53. I think they are trying to get a head start to make up for the new hy-brid cars that tend to use about 1/4 to 1/2 the fuel....... Prices should have droped by now since they are not refineing any winter mix heating oil.... I was in northern ohio and seen it around 2.23 a gallon.
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From: Chugiak, Alaska
I feel pretty good..................now. Here in Anchorage, Alaska Diesel was $2.14 and Regular was $2.04 last fill up. I drive much better now........put on lighter shoes. Evne the state troopers are trying to help our fuel economy. They are really putting on a big push to slow down the nuts up here. In the past 15 years I have never seen so many troopers, didn't know there were that many in the state.
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I heard the reason diesels been so high was because they are using 1,000,000 gallons a day fighting in Iraq. Diesel prices in Lincoln, Ne. were $2.34 at a Sinclair station. Unleaded was $2.29. I've already started working towards burning waste veg oil.
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From: New Hampshire
at least when we all go to waste veggy oil there will be plently of it... what with a mcdonalds, wendy's, burger king, around every block...! "sir, would you like to super size that order of waste oil...?"
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From: Jersey Shore
a857406,
How far have you gotten?
I've been looking into it and am starting to design my systems to compare that to purchasing a system from a vendor. I figure to save about $3000 per year.
I want to try to use the equipment from the front tank and make a 55 gal. fuel tank to replace the front tank on my 96 F350.
How far have you gotten?
I've been looking into it and am starting to design my systems to compare that to purchasing a system from a vendor. I figure to save about $3000 per year.
I want to try to use the equipment from the front tank and make a 55 gal. fuel tank to replace the front tank on my 96 F350.
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From: Jersey Shore
Basic Process:
Collect used VO from local restaurants (Chinese is cleanest)
Allow to settle in drums in garage
Filter and put in special fuel tank in truck
Mods required:
Install heated fuel tank
plumb split from collant to heat exchanger in tank
special heated fuel line(using coolant)
plumb relays and valve to switch from tank(diesel) to tank(vo)
You run 5 minutes on the diesel to heat the coolant and oil. Then switch to VO and ride for free. Switch back to diesel a few minutes before shutting down so you are ready to start again in diesel. Some guys can start on VO in the summer.
There is more to it than that but that is the basics. There are kits available online or there are a couple of guys on this site that have done the deed with some nice improvements.
Sorry to have highjacked this thread but now that we've established we are getting clobbered we can work toward solving the problem.
There are opinions about engine life, fuel lubricity and wrrenties. I'll leave that to others to discuss. My truck is out of warrenty and I can buy a new engine every 2 years with the money I'll save. So let's have some fun with a new project.
Collect used VO from local restaurants (Chinese is cleanest)
Allow to settle in drums in garage
Filter and put in special fuel tank in truck
Mods required:
Install heated fuel tank
plumb split from collant to heat exchanger in tank
special heated fuel line(using coolant)
plumb relays and valve to switch from tank(diesel) to tank(vo)
You run 5 minutes on the diesel to heat the coolant and oil. Then switch to VO and ride for free. Switch back to diesel a few minutes before shutting down so you are ready to start again in diesel. Some guys can start on VO in the summer.
There is more to it than that but that is the basics. There are kits available online or there are a couple of guys on this site that have done the deed with some nice improvements.
Sorry to have highjacked this thread but now that we've established we are getting clobbered we can work toward solving the problem.
There are opinions about engine life, fuel lubricity and wrrenties. I'll leave that to others to discuss. My truck is out of warrenty and I can buy a new engine every 2 years with the money I'll save. So let's have some fun with a new project.
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Barnacle Bill,
I've got 2 solenoid valves for switching from wvo to diesel, we've got some oil waiting to be prefiltered. Should have a tank by this weekend or next. There are 2 of us converting a 97 F250 and an F350. We are currently working on designing and building a heater just in front of the fuel filter. We've got a temp guage to keep track of the fuel temp. We have 1 heater built but after it was finished I thought it was too small and after reading the tread on how much fuel our fuel pumps are pumping we both decided it wasn't big enough. We're still in the early stages of getting this thing done. Keep me posted on how your doing.
I've got 2 solenoid valves for switching from wvo to diesel, we've got some oil waiting to be prefiltered. Should have a tank by this weekend or next. There are 2 of us converting a 97 F250 and an F350. We are currently working on designing and building a heater just in front of the fuel filter. We've got a temp guage to keep track of the fuel temp. We have 1 heater built but after it was finished I thought it was too small and after reading the tread on how much fuel our fuel pumps are pumping we both decided it wasn't big enough. We're still in the early stages of getting this thing done. Keep me posted on how your doing.
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Long Island, NY.
$2.239 Reg
$2.439 Prem
$2.519 Diesel
Email your Democrat Senators and tell them to stop blocking the Energy Bill, that the House as already passed!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/22/MNG45CDDBS1.DTL
$2.239 Reg
$2.439 Prem
$2.519 Diesel
Email your Democrat Senators and tell them to stop blocking the Energy Bill, that the House as already passed!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/22/MNG45CDDBS1.DTL
Last edited by arjr111; Apr 22, 2005 at 08:39 AM.
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From: Hot Springs Village, Ar
Before you e-mail anyone, make sure you read the energy bill. See who it helps. If you agree, carry on. Nuff said. Carroll
Originally Posted by arjr111
Long Island, NY.
$2.239 Reg
$2.439 Prem
$2.519 Diesel
Email your Democrat Senators and tell them to stop blocking the Energy Bill, that the House as already passed!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/22/MNG45CDDBS1.DTL
$2.239 Reg
$2.439 Prem
$2.519 Diesel
Email your Democrat Senators and tell them to stop blocking the Energy Bill, that the House as already passed!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/04/22/MNG45CDDBS1.DTL
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From: Montreal
This is almost the only post where I can beat you up guys ;-)
around Montreal PQ, Cdn Diesel is around 0.86 cents a liter (there is almost 4 liters in an american gallon).
So this is why I like to travel "the other side of the border" :-)
The best deals I could find when travelling are:
http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm?state=ALL
Stef
around Montreal PQ, Cdn Diesel is around 0.86 cents a liter (there is almost 4 liters in an american gallon).
So this is why I like to travel "the other side of the border" :-)
The best deals I could find when travelling are:
http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/diesel_CF.cfm?state=ALL
Stef
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 16
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From: templeton,ca
Saudi Oil Minister: OPEC Ability to Curb Prices Now Limited
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=21995
Snippit:
Saudi Arabia's Oil Minister Ali Naimi said "Despite our best efforts, Saudi Arabia and OPEC have had little ability to curb the rapid rise in prices". Prices are more than 65% higher than at the start of 2004 and there are rising concerns that they are now a drag on economies worldwide.
In his speech, Naimi said the burgeoning influence on world oil prices from a new breed of investors had weakened the muscle of OPEC. "The pension funds buy and hold positions, which creates a long market," he said, citing some $12 billion-worth of money that tracked oil within the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index last year.
"Even banks are jumping on the bandwagon," he said, adding: "Some analysts expect that oil could soon be traded as an exchange-traded fund, meaning that it could be offered almost like a stock." This would attract even more investors, he said.
In short: "There is a widespread feeling in the industry that this activity will continue to push the market higher despite OPEC and Saudi Arabia's strong efforts to stabilize prices."
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=21995
Snippit:
Saudi Arabia's Oil Minister Ali Naimi said "Despite our best efforts, Saudi Arabia and OPEC have had little ability to curb the rapid rise in prices". Prices are more than 65% higher than at the start of 2004 and there are rising concerns that they are now a drag on economies worldwide.
In his speech, Naimi said the burgeoning influence on world oil prices from a new breed of investors had weakened the muscle of OPEC. "The pension funds buy and hold positions, which creates a long market," he said, citing some $12 billion-worth of money that tracked oil within the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index last year.
"Even banks are jumping on the bandwagon," he said, adding: "Some analysts expect that oil could soon be traded as an exchange-traded fund, meaning that it could be offered almost like a stock." This would attract even more investors, he said.
In short: "There is a widespread feeling in the industry that this activity will continue to push the market higher despite OPEC and Saudi Arabia's strong efforts to stabilize prices."