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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Backfiring 460

I have a 1979 F 150 with a 460 and holley 4 barrel. It starts okay but you have to feather the throttle to get it to take off from idle. If I step on the gas too hard it stumbles and will backfire through the carb. It seems to run okay at higher rpms but will backfire on hard acceleration.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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It sounds like a problem with the accelerator pump.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Sounds like either your accelerator pump is stuck/gummed up or is out of adjustment. Did it just start doing it out of the blue? Is the vacuum advance working properly? What list# Holley is it? The number should be stamped on the front of the choke housing towards the drivers side.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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i would guess that you may have junky anti backfiring valves in your exhaust, may be gummed up or stuck
 
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 02:27 AM
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Huh? those just prevent the air pump from injecting air while you are decelerating.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Check to make sure the fuel bowl float level is set correctly and that you are not dripping out of either bowl because they are set too high. Not saying this your problem but I had a similar problem and found that the secondary fuel bowl level was set too high.

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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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I will look at the list number today. My truck is in storage 30 miles away so I get to visit on the weekends.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Start by checking your timing and make sure that the mechanical advance is working. Check the vac advance while you're there, although if it is bad it would not contribute to this particular problem.

Secondly, look down the throat of the carb and snap the throttle open. You should see a nice, strong stream of gas squirt into both primary throats. If it is squirting, check the accelerator pump linkage to see that there is no more than about .020" of free play between the acc pump lever and the actuating arm.

If none of this turns up a problem, you will need to go deeper into the carb. Post the results here, and we will continue the troubleshooting procedure.

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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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i checked everything it it seems fine, timinmg, pump etc. i changed the alternator to see if the power to auto choke wasnt good. it seemed to make a little difference but as the truck ran the plugs got fouled after 5 mins, started backfiring and sputtering again
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold Kenyon
I have a 1979 F 150 with a 460 and holley 4 barrel. It starts okay but you have to feather the throttle to get it to take off from idle. If I step on the gas too hard it stumbles and will backfire through the carb. It seems to run okay at higher rpms but will backfire on hard acceleration.
Backfiring is not caused by the Carb. If it's too lean you'll get ping and if it's too rich you'll get smoke and stalling.

If you're getting backfire you've got valves open at the wrong time.

Double and triple check your timing. Be sure when you set your initial timing it's with the vacuum advance disconnected and the vacuum line is plugged. Timing is 12 degrees BTDC on a 79' 460.

Also, I know this sounds stupid but, check your plug wires and make sure they're all on the right cylinders. Just a thought...

Hope this helps.

Jim
 
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Old May 5, 2005 | 02:31 AM
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I have had carbs with bad accelerator pumps pop through the intake when you step on it. Without the pump, opening the throttle causes a momentary extremely lean condition, and the cylinder will pop through the intake.
 
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Old May 5, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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I took my truck for a drive last weekend. I worked the accelerator pump manually a few times and it seemed to help some. I still have the hesitation right off idle though. I will check the timing next.
 
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Old May 6, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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I am having the exact same problem. I have a brand new 770 truck avenger. I will watch this thread to see what happens with you and if I find a solution first I will let you know.
 
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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How many miles on that Holley? Sounds like you may have an accelerator pump or power valve problem.

John
 
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