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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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I found this site last night and hope someone can help me.
I purchased a 99 f250 v10 3.73 new in 1999.
I'm now pulling a smaller 5thw [9500 wet] and driving about 10mph slower.
I love the truck and haven't had any problems except fuel pump replaced 2 yrs. ago, because of dirty fuel. My problem is the mpg keeps going down. When new it averaged 8-9. towing, 14.5-16.5 empty on trips around 12 in my small town driving. The truck ran and pulled good except in the mountains. The mpg was good but not enough omp on the grades. At about 65000 miles the mpg started going down especially when towing. Its now a pretty steady 7.5 towing. At 75000 miles I changed the plugs, air and fuel filter had the tranny flushed and fluid changed. The mpg still stayed down so I installed 4.10 gears. That made a big improvement in towing and even increased the mpg .3
At last we get around to my guestion,
Is there something I'm missing that should be checked that could be defective.
Love the truck hate the MPG.
Thanks guys.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 02:35 AM
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It may be time for new o2 sensors.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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I think your towing mileage is about correct. At least it's consistant with what I have gotten with a 8k 5th wheel..
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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When new, you stated it averaged 8-9 towing and now it is getting 7.5 towing. that is only a 1.5 drop . With fuel prices the way they are that does cost more but so many things can cause a small drop in mileage. You have covered most of the obvious ones but that 1.5 could be do to fuel type, air pressure in your tires, keep them at max inflation for best mileage, even a wider tire can use a little more fuel. Good luck with the truck and if you find a fix, let us know, Wrenchtraveller.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Ksrdrunner Welcome to the site, Wrench.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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Welcome to the site!

Probably not much you can do to correct the situation. As the rings begin to wear, you get less 'power' and more blow-by. What weight of oil are you using?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ksrdrunner
I found this site last night and hope someone can help me.
I purchased a 99 f250 v10 3.73 new in 1999.
I'm now pulling a smaller 5thw [9500 wet] and driving about 10mph slower.
I love the truck and haven't had any problems except fuel pump replaced 2 yrs. ago, because of dirty fuel. My problem is the mpg keeps going down. When new it averaged 8-9. towing, 14.5-16.5 empty on trips around 12 in my small town driving. The truck ran and pulled good except in the mountains. The mpg was good but not enough omp on the grades. At about 65000 miles the mpg started going down especially when towing. Its now a pretty steady 7.5 towing. At 75000 miles I changed the plugs, air and fuel filter had the tranny flushed and fluid changed. The mpg still stayed down so I installed 4.10 gears. That made a big improvement in towing and even increased the mpg .3
At last we get around to my guestion,
Is there something I'm missing that should be checked that could be defective.
Love the truck hate the MPG.
Thanks guys.
any change in your fuel ? Oxygenated, methanol added ? Change of brands ? I can get 1 or 2 mpg different in brands and wintertime in Ore/Wash always brings lessened mpg due to a difference in fuel mixes. Your defrosters run your a/c pump too to dehumidify the air. I know in the winter with wet streets my foot is a little heavier, it's fun getting 22 feet of V-10 sideways, but these results aren't typical, yuk yuk.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Thanks for the replys.
I'm cheap so I don't run the a/c and defroster unless I have to.
Tire's 65 front and 80 rear.
Oil 5-30 wt. Change oil about every 3-4000 miles. It don't use any oil. Would it help to go to a heaver oil? More compression maybe.
MPG is about the same in all the south western states.
Regular unleaded gas.
Kind of light footed on speed, 60-65 on interstates and 55-60 on back roads.
Where is the o2 sensor located and can it be bench checked? Approx price and is it easy to replace?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ksrdrunner
Thanks for the replys.
I'm cheap so I don't run the a/c and defroster unless I have to.
Tire's 65 front and 80 rear.
Oil 5-30 wt. Change oil about every 3-4000 miles. It don't use any oil. Would it help to go to a heaver oil? More compression maybe.
MPG is about the same in all the south western states.
Regular unleaded gas.
Kind of light footed on speed, 60-65 on interstates and 55-60 on back roads.
Where is the o2 sensor located and can it be bench checked? Approx price and is it easy to replace?
No, heavier oil will hurt. Ford calls for 5W-20 after 99 in the V-10 and suggests it for all V-10's 97 and up. It looks like you have all your bases covered for best mileage, and oil aint gonna do much, maybe .10 mpg. Try a cap, a tonneu cover. I see alot of the ricers with big-*** wings so maybe that's the ticket ???
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Where is the mass air flow sensor locater?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ksrdrunner
Where is the o2 sensor located and can it be bench checked? Approx price and is it easy to replace?
It probably will not have out-right failed, but an o2 sensor with over 60,000 miles certainly could cause a drop in mileage. I have seen people with over 200,000 miles on the original ones, but that ain't the norm. They are located down from the exhaust manifold on each side. Generally they are fairly easy to change, but there are always exceptions. A quick check over on RockAuto shows Motorcrafts at about $55. You could probably get Bosch from Autozone for around the same money if you wanted them quick like.

BTW, the Mass Air Flow sensor is located between the air filter housing and the thottle body.
 
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