Removing emission crap..advantages?..
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Removing emission crap..advantages?..
What are the advantages of removing all the emissions crap off of an engine?...i have an 84 F-150..302..automatic..4x2...and was wondering if it really helps any...and what the advantages are..also..need some directions on how to do it if anyone is interested in helping with that...thanks..
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From: Bonita Springs FL
The work and aggravation you will go through is not worth it. If your area doesn't require emissions now, it might in the future, and then you will have to put it all back on. If everything is working fine, it will not impact the performance at all.
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If your emissions equipment uses the belt driven smog pump then there's lots of advantages. There's less drag on the engine, it's cleaner, and easier to work on. The thing is... On fuel injected vehicles, I'm not sure, but removing the emissions stuff might trip out the vehicle's computer. Plus, depending on where you live the police have equipment on their cruisers that can do a highway sniffer test and they will ticket you if your vehicle doesn't meet standards. You also will have to redo and plug some vacuum lines or thermactor pipes. Good luck!
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Can your really measure the "drag" or load this small air pump is putting on the engine?
it's minimal at best. There reall is no advantage pulling the emissions off a EFI computer driven engine.
Unless you concider potentially buring pistons, crappy running, rich mixture, and lots O' error codes, an advantage.
It may "look" cleaner from the outside, but it's headed for the bone yard quicker.
Want to go no emissions? find yourself a '74 302 4bbl and stuff that in.
Reamer
it's minimal at best. There reall is no advantage pulling the emissions off a EFI computer driven engine.
Unless you concider potentially buring pistons, crappy running, rich mixture, and lots O' error codes, an advantage.
It may "look" cleaner from the outside, but it's headed for the bone yard quicker.
Want to go no emissions? find yourself a '74 302 4bbl and stuff that in.
Reamer
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Hey, I got a question. All that air pump is doing is moving air, is it possible to use it like a supercharger with a filtering system and proper rerouting of of vacuum lines and what not? Or does it not move that much air? Just a thought...
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Originally Posted by Xwarrior86
Hey, I got a question. All that air pump is doing is moving air, is it possible to use it like a supercharger with a filtering system and proper rerouting of of vacuum lines and what not? Or does it not move that much air? Just a thought...
As for remving the equipment: I pulled it out on my old truck when the engine was rebuilt. I haven't touched the smog equipment on my Grand Marquis. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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The air pump is doing 2 things, as the EGR opens, it adds "fresh" air to the exaust gasses. "dillution is the solution to pollotion" theory. Somehow the fresh air helps the cat too.
Also if you look towards the back there are one-way check valves. This keeps the super hot gasses from the exaust manifold from burning out the EGR and getting back in the heads, and the Air pump keeps the air direction going towards the exaust pipe.
Also if you look towards the back there are one-way check valves. This keeps the super hot gasses from the exaust manifold from burning out the EGR and getting back in the heads, and the Air pump keeps the air direction going towards the exaust pipe.
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an 84 is not EFI, so your statement, while true, really isnt applicable in this situation.
our 82 is now emission-less (other than the Cat) and it runs better, and looks better, and gets better MPG
early emissions systems are silly, and poorly designed.
our 82 is now emission-less (other than the Cat) and it runs better, and looks better, and gets better MPG
early emissions systems are silly, and poorly designed.
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Originally Posted by Xwarrior86
Hey, I got a question. All that air pump is doing is moving air, is it possible to use it like a supercharger with a filtering system and proper rerouting of of vacuum lines and what not? Or does it not move that much air? Just a thought...
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OK, how's this sound. I was talking to a friend of mine last night about my air pump idea, and after he stopped laughing he said, "what about the blower from a clothes dryer?" HEY! There's an idea. Those things are built just like a supercharger... So If it was possible to supply the 110V needed to run the thing, would it work?
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Actually a leaf blower rear housing will work but it is not a strong boost. The best it can do is 2 to 3 lbs which is very minimal but it is still a positive charge. It does require a very small pulley and if possible a double pulley system. Run a belt to a miniscule pulley then use that pulley to turn the leaf blower. HOMELITE RULES!