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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:30 AM
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Help! engine codes-p0171 and p0174

2001 5.4 Expedition 48k check engine light came on and following codes came up. p0171 and p0174.
The truck still runs great and there are no idle problems. I replaced the pcv line and elbow (read all the old posts) there was no apparent holes in the old one. Cleared code and light came back on after about 5 miles.
Mechanic thinks it may be intake plenum o-rings, as there are no apparent vacuum leaks elsewhere.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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I have also cleaned the MAF sensor, replaced the air and fuel filter (which need changing anyway. Truck passed state emissions test.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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FWIW. Was the MAF (mass airflow sensor) that was causing the lean codes. Seems that Ford has had to replace so many, they offer MAF's as a remanufactured part with a core charge.
 

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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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MAF sensor?

So P0171 is lean Bank 1. P0174 is lean Bank 2. And you cured this problem by cleaning the MAF sensor? Are you sure?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 02:09 AM
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Cleaning the maf sensor did not work. It had to be replaced.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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two vacuum leaks

I was just going to post the follow up to my saga on my P0171, P0174 codes and saw yours....my 99 Expy had two vacuum leaks...both at elbows/bends on the vacuum system....I fixed both and cleared the codes with my new OBD II computer and it worked great....the vehicle also runs much smoother.

Thanks for all the help.

Milkman
 
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Replacement of the PCV line was my first course of action. Unfortunately the original had to holes or splits, but I replaced it anyway. Brought the truck to my mechanic who could not find any vacuum leaks and traced the problem to the MAF sensor.
Truck runs much better (more pickup) and fuel mileage has gotten better.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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MAF Sensor?...

How much does the MAF sensor cost?
 

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Look into the O2 sensors !!! Lean codes are usually due to bad O2 sensors. Try replacing the bank thats lean in FRONT of the CC's, reset the computer and i'm almost 100 percent sure your troubles will disappear.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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I also have these codes and cannot get rid of them. I have no vacuum leaks. I can clean the maf with electrical cleaner and some air and the codes will not come back til about 100 miles later. should I also be looking into o2 sensors? can they be checked? 125k miles on the engine..
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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If you have 125K on the original O2 sensors your way overdue !! Replace both in front of the cats, reset the engines computer and i'm sure you'll be pleased with the results.
 
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I think for $100 bucks I will buy the Bosch sensors and see what happens.. thanks for the info.
 
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I also cleaned the MAF sensor but it ended up being DOA. They are available as rebuilt from Ford at about 150.00. If you have access to another vehicle borrow the MAF and see if that solves the problem before you buy. Don't let anything touch the sensor filaments!!
 
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