I was thinking lately what could be done with the V10, in terms of power.

It should be possible to "graft" some 4V heads (based on lengthened versions of the 5.4 4V heads).
Then you could supercharge it, with at least 10lb of boost.

There would be other modifications required, like fuel system, but given that there isn't an aftermarket block manufacturer for the V10, what do you think could be done with the stock block?

I had around 650hp with 10lb of boost from my supercharged 4V 5.4, in theory over 800hp would be possible from the V10 (given its 25% larger in terms of capacity).
What do you think?

I would love to build a drag and dyno truck out of the V10, but unfortunately:
1. I don't have the funds at the moment (my car ran a little over budget )
2. I would have to privately import the vehicle from the states as we don't get V10's here (paperwork galore )

In theory it should be capable of far more than a PSD, as it:
1. Is a gasser (higher power)
2. Doesn't have as much transmission eating low down torque (i.e. you should be able to channel more power through the 6-speed or Torqshift if you have a V10 than a PSD)

I would love to put together one, to show people the potential of one of these beasts, and also to be different, how many diesel drag trucks are there out there?
I would also like the idea of eating an SRT-10 Ram for lunch.

What do you guys reckon?

 

I don't think the "grafting" of 4 complet 4 valve heads is practical or would yield enough gain to be worth the effort. Not sure where you got the idea that 4 valves are needed for the 10psi boost. I have over boosted up to 14psi several twin turbo set ups in 2 valve motors. Yes 4 valves would marginally flow better but not significantly better that the 3 we have.

I am turbo smart and blower dumb as I never set up a "blown" motor. But I think the bigger challenge on this type project would be getting a custom chip programmer to work with you on the right program.

I got to see a disassembled old 2 valve V10 and I think the bottom end is plenty strong but there are a few design considerations I do not like. Mainly they used aluminum bearings EVERY where in this motor. Are you aware that there is a counterbalance shaft? Too many rotating assemblies for me to be comfortable spinning past the 6000rpm engineered top end. Most gasoline very hig performance motors need to get above 7000rpm to start to make 600+HP.

I keep day dreaming of getting a T-bucket or similar roadster and stuffing the V10 and running gear into it.... How about a 6-71 roots all chromed up and 10 nice simple chromed straignt pipes sweeping to the rear? Bet it would look good but be way to loud to drive and hear the stereo.

 

I just thought the idea of the 4V heads would yeild higher performance gains, as well as running DOHC.

Running a custom chip programmer would not be a problem, as I personally calibrated my car, and I have programmed many a friends performance vehicle.
It can be be done with the standard ECU with the addition of a few inputs (boost pressure etc.).

I am the opposite, I understand blowers, but not turbos that well - well not with conventional engines, I have helped set up many a Rotary engine with a turbo, but I haven't done it with a piston engine.

My 5.4 still spins to just 6000rpm, I don't believe you would need to rev the engine any harder.
I am not sure whether my engine uses aluminium bearings or not, but if it doesn't, they should be interchangable.
And if it does use them, I think that they should be durable enough to handle a similar load in the V10.

 

You'd be better off using 3-valve heads and going from there...

Since the 3-valve V10 doesn't have VVT, and since you are adding a blower, you might get something from changing the valve-timing or even getting custom-ground cams...

art k.

 

Not that I am going to do the project, I know financially I would be better off using the 3V heads, BUT:

1. Part of this idea is to be different, how many 4V V10s are there?
2. The limitation on flow (if more boost was to be added) through the heads would be less with 4V setup.
3. Nothing this side of a Lamborghini or a BMW M5 has a DOHC V10, imagine one in a Ford, and an F-truck at that...

No, its not practical, or prehaps even sensible, but is building a 7000lb drag machine practical or sensible from the start???

Fredvon, I like your idea of the T-bucket, prehaps 5 sidepipes on each side of the vehicle (you would need crossovers, otherwise it would sound like an inline 5, like early Vipers )

And who really cares about the stereo anyway...