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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Sad Day at School

Ok first off lets go back to last Wednesday, our so great english teacher had an argument with one of our schools administration about a matter, he said he dont care if he gets fired, the argument was over a student, they wouldnt let her take a test and he knew she would be aloud and thats when he said he didnt care if he got fired. When he got back to the room he told us all this, and he has been gone since. There is a new teacher in his room, she has made up her own little folders for things like he isnt coming back, we ask her where Mr. Ring was and she tells us he is on personal leave, well then today we go in there and all of his things are gone, things off the walls, things in his desk , everything of his, his certificates on the wall. She still says he is on personal leave. Thats all we know at this moment.

Mr. Ring is such a great teacher, Im a guy I love him (Not a gay way,) you can talk about everything with him, and he really listens not like most teachers who act like they do, everyone loves him, we miss him. Out of all teachers in my school years he is by way the best damn teacher we have had. He gets close to his students (not in the bad way) he knows about us, he is interested in what we do and he cares. We use to love coming into his class everymorning, you know we would learn things and all, but it didnt seem like it by the ways he tought things to us. He would never get mad at anyone, he said he felt bad about what he done but it was for a great reason.

Yes we felt very sad when he walked in there and saw all of his things missing, to the point of crying almost, this is how much we love this teacher, this is all coming out of 7 guys that are all 18 years old.

Here is a little bit about Mr. Ring
An Ohio State University graduate and certified in both English and mathematics, David Ring focuses upon spoken grammar skills and critical analysis of literature. Works featured in the classroom often deal with historical fiction, contemporary and periodical essays, and biographical selections. He works with the proficiency skills team and tutors students in independent studies. Recently he has teamed with Kathy Fogwell to direct the technical writing and research lunchtime class.

A past Jennings Scholar and Ashland Oil Foundation Teacher finalist, David Ring was a member of the State of Ohio’s project Teacher Mentoring team. Active in many school advisorships, he was co-director of Ohio Arts Choice Appalachian theater – JOY (Junior Ohio Youth Theater and a presenter at OCTELA (Ohio Council Teachers of English and Language Arts) and the Ohio Catholic Schools Conference.

He conducts his own special writing units workshops and teams with Dr. Beth Muskopf to lead “the special language of mathematics” seminars. In out-of-school life, he and his wife head up a design and wedding consultant service.

David has been a participant and co-author in numerous North Central committees and school grant and curriculum teams. He has developed and used poetry and writing teaching units for students in grades six through college level. He tutors private and public school students in individual sessions for ACT, SAT, and entrance exams. He states that one of his “accomplished moments” was receiving Hopewell Special Education Regional Resource Center Award for Excellence in Special Education classroom collaboration.
THIS IS THE LAST DAILY QUOTE WE HAD BEFORE HE WAS GONE
Actually we really dont know where he is, no one will tell us, we think he is fired but no one will say.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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This sounds like you have a teacher that actualyl LOVES his job, not just there for a check. Too many teachers these days don't care about what they are doing. They only care about that check. Same with the administrations in many of the schools. As long as the city/county/state are paying them the don't care what happens. His "removal" has proved this. I would drop out and pay to attend a NEW school.
 
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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He may be a good teacher, but to the school board, he is just another number, or thats how our school functioned, until they actually needed the position bc they couldn't fill it. I had one great teacher in school. He wasn't the nicest teacher, he wasn't the meanest. He was an ex-army soldier/medic(can't remember what he did, been 3 years since i've talked to him). He was very strict, but in a good way, I found everything that he said interesting. He taught US History, and ELPS. I looked forward to his class, the only one i cared about going to all day. He almost got fired for picking a student up by the collar in the hall, the student was threatening another student, and then he stepped in and the student took a swing at him, and he posted the student on the wall.
 
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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There was a teacher like that back when I went to skool and he got fired for yelling at a kid because he came to skool drunk...A whole bunch of his students (including me) went to our parents and all of our parents got together and confronted the skool board in a meeting...Soon after that our teacher was back


If you go about this in the right manor the skool board WILL listen when the $$ is threatened...By money I mean parant support and community outcry...It won't happen over night but it will work with persistance...

Good luck
 
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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It is a fine line that teachers walk and I think that the teacher gave the administration the ammo to have him "removed" from the class. How many years did he teach? He may of just retired out of frustration. From his bio he is very employable.

I am a teacher and I like to deal with the students on a personal level and that is not looked upon very well by some of my administrators. They want you to only cover what is in the book and not give a practical application to the information. Oh well…

Here are some things that you might want to do to find out what happened to your teacher.

1. Talk with another teacher that you trust and ask them if they know.
2. Have your parents call the principal and ask where the teacher is and if they are not given a sufficient answer then go to district personal.
3. Be very nice when asking questions and know that they may not be able to give you information, as it is personal and covered by law.

P.S. I am not in education for the check and I hate the people that are. I am in education for the kids… You should really see my check…Not good, but I do not care it is what I love doing.
 
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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When he got back to the room he told us all this, and he has been gone since.
Did he do this in front of students? If so I would have fired him. This is not setting a good example to his students. Perhaps teaching the students to resist authority. Also this is not very professional.
he said he dont care if he gets fired
Guess what you say this to a boss and you get fired period. If he didn't care if he got fired how do you see him as a good teacher? Evidently he didn't care to much about his students.

I'm not saying he wasn't a good teacher but he let his temper get the best of him and you can't do that and not expect to pay the price.
 
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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I think that everyone has a teaher in their life that makes a change. They help us by actually caring about what they do, mine was Mr. Kenny Stith. He was my band director, and left our school to be a principal at an elementary school. I hope that your teacher is able to get his problems with the board resolved and return, but it sounds like that time has already past.
 
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Just because a teacher doesn't agree with administration doesn't mean he (or she) isn't a good teacher....there is a world of difference between dealing with kids and dealing with administrators. My experience (not a teacher myself, but my dad, sister, and aunt all are) is that administration's first priority is NOT the kids, except that the number of kids affects $$$. That said, teachers really shouldn't discuss personal issues, either their own or those of other students, with their classes. That stuff should stay private.

I've had some teachers that, looking back, I don't consider very good. But I never had trouble with them (might have been because my dad was a teacher and I couldn't get away with ANYTHING), and at the time I didn't think they were poor teachers. Seems like the worst were those who were ready to retire. It's rough having any job done by someone who doesn't want to be there, but when the job is teaching, it's really bad.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mikebon08
Just because a teacher doesn't agree with administration doesn't mean he (or she) isn't a good teacher....there is a world of difference between dealing with kids and dealing with administrators. My experience (not a teacher myself, but my dad, sister, and aunt all are) is that administration's first priority is NOT the kids, except that the number of kids affects $$$. That said, teachers really shouldn't discuss personal issues, either their own or those of other students, with their classes. That stuff should stay private.

I've had some teachers that, looking back, I don't consider very good. But I never had trouble with them (might have been because my dad was a teacher and I couldn't get away with ANYTHING), and at the time I didn't think they were poor teachers. Seems like the worst were those who were ready to retire. It's rough having any job done by someone who doesn't want to be there, but when the job is teaching, it's really bad.
You are so correct about the Money. Mine will cut your neck to appease a parent.

I disagree about your synopses about being a teachers kid. I really watch them, because I know their parents can understand the dynamics of being a teacher.

I agree with the idea that teachers that are retired in the mind and heart should physically retire, because they are doing no good. I used to teach in a district that allowed teachers to retire and then return on a 2/5ths contract. They were the Laziest teachers and the kids hated them.
 
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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In our County they've been letting seasoned teachers go left and right. This is because the retirement is managed by the state. So their pay no longer comes from the school board, and they hire a replacement teacher out of college for half their pay. The seasoned teachers go over to a neighbor state to teach. Also the school board has an easier time pushing the new teachers around, but a lot of them get fed up and leave when their contract is up.
 
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Also the school board has an easier time pushing the new teachers around, but a lot of them get fed up and leave when their contract is up.

Yep, 3 in 5 people that get into education leave after five years.
 
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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I hear how the US is falling behind other countries in education. Seeing how we treat teachers, I can understand why....a teaching degree is as hard to get as an engineering degree, pays about 2/3 as much starting out, and you have to put up with kids, parents, and administration. Teaching used to be a respected profession....any more, they're considered babysitters by parents and a necessary evil by the school systems, and treated exactly as such. And then people complain because their kids don't learn anything.
 
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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And then people complain because their kids don't learn anything.
Yes, I totally agree, I have went to crappy schools all of my life I am currently in 11th grade, well its probably the fact that I live in Utah, I don't understand why we are SO LOW in the countries schooling everyone around here complains why we are getting such bad grades and why there is so much violence but NOTHING is done about it, I just don't understand why the state of Utah can't pull its act together and get better equipment for the schools and get teachers with actual KNOWLEGE!!
 
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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rmalottwtes30: Being a teacher myself, I have to tell you that it is students like you that keep some of us in teaching. I live for my family first but most of my students are like an extended family to me. I am sure that Mr. Ring is as concerned about his student's well being as you are about him. One thing though, make sure you give the new teacher a chance. Whatever happened isn't her fault.

To Others:
I don't think that I know a teacher that is "in it for the check". I know of many teachers who have suffered burnout and aren't as affective as they once were, but all of them are ultimately concerned for the well being of the students. I have a Masters degree and 14 years experience and make $32,436 a year. I couldn't do this if it was just for the check. There is a great deal of gratification in seeing students succeed.


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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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Hawg. I unfortunatley have seen many teachers that just don't care about the students. Why give a student a workbook and no lesson? Are they just supposed to know? My ex-girlfriend had an algebra teacher that would give them homework and no lecture. The book they had was designed around a lecture type study of the work. She'd be in tears because she didn't know how to do the work. I had asked her several times if her teacher had explained it to the class and she always said "No, he never does".
 



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