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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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redline for 351

i have a 1991 f-250 with the 351. its a manual tranny and was wondering were the red line is
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Don't push it over 35
 
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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i think 5000-5200 is safe if its healthy, not for a long time but to shift its fine. i dont think you need to go more then 4800 to reach max power.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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Its about 5, I've reved my 89 F-250 to about 5, but I usually don't bring it past 4, no point.

3500 is not the redline, but much after that and you start loosing power anyway.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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I haven't looked at it for a while, but I think the sales brouchure for my '96 says the peek hp for the 351 is 210@3800 rpm. No point in turning it any faster.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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The Ford F-250 with 5.8L in 1991 is as follows:

<TABLE cols=5 width="100%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TD><CENTER>1991</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>5.8W (351 ci)</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>210 hp @ 3800 rpm</CENTER></TD><TD><CENTER>315 ft/lb @ 2800 rpm</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

But if your still gaining power at a higher RPM, then go for it. But like MustangGT said, 4-5k should be the max.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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thanks desertdave35, i didnt know the hp and torque for my motor, though i have a question. I bnought the truck about 2 years ago, and the guy i bought it from rebuild it cause i think it started to ping, he ended up boring it out i think 30 or 40 over. what kind of gains would i get from this is any.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Boring an engine is not done for a performance thing necessarily. They don't bore the cylinder to make it larger for more power...they bore it to clean up the cylinder walls, and they will put new rings on it, to restore the engine's compression. The compression declines over an engines life, causing a slow decline in power, and eventually it'll burn oil etc etc...

So they bored your motor 30 or 40 over, which is common (my 393 is 30 over, written .030). It'll make your 351 like a 357ish ci (I guessed, didn't do the math), and it'll effectively restore it to like-new condition. Boring an engine does increase it's size, but barely, and having a larger motor does make more power but its so minimal that...its not considered. It's more of just rebuilding the engine to make it like new. Think of boring as a repowering instead of an increase in performance/power. If you do nothing but bore the engine, it'll just re-store compression which will bump the power up to original specs (in theory).
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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i know they do it to clean the cylinder walls and etc... but i wasnt sure if it added an hp or torque again, that could be measurable thanks though mustangGt221
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MustangGT221
Boring an engine is not done for a performance thing necessarily. They don't bore the cylinder to make it larger for more power...they bore it to clean up the cylinder walls, and they will put new rings on it, to restore the engine's compression. The compression declines over an engines life, causing a slow decline in power, and eventually it'll burn oil etc etc...

So they bored your motor 30 or 40 over, which is common (my 393 is 30 over, written .030). It'll make your 351 like a 357ish ci (I guessed, didn't do the math), and it'll effectively restore it to like-new condition. Boring an engine does increase it's size, but barely, and having a larger motor does make more power but its so minimal that...its not considered. It's more of just rebuilding the engine to make it like new. Think of boring as a repowering instead of an increase in performance/power. If you do nothing but bore the engine, it'll just re-store compression which will bump the power up to original specs (in theory).
speaking of compression what should a 351w have for compression?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Depends on what type of 351 you're refering to, used...new...but it's pretty vague to be able to tell you.

150psi is considered good for a used engine, I believe new engines are around 200+...the compression ratio, type of rings, their condition...as well as many other aspects can affect the compression.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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351 Specs

THANKS FOR REPLY, SOUNDS LIKE I HAVE A VERY CRAPPY 351W, AFTER REBUILD, I HAVE 137.5 LBS IN ALL CYLINDERS! SO MANY THINGS HAVE GONE WRONG WITH THIS REBUILD, STARTING WITH THE MACHINE SHOP SCREWING UP THE WRIST PINS.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by superhooperduty
speaking of compression what should a 351w have for compression?
The lowest cyl compression should be no less than 75% of the highest one.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by darkknight9
The lowest cyl compression should be no less than 75% of the highest one.
well i hve that for sure, all the cylinders are within .5 lbs of compression, no problem there, but from what i've been told, the engine should have more total comression, so is this a crappy engine or what? superduty here i come,(soon as i save lots more money)
 
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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I have a 1983 f-150 with a 351 windsor dual exaust with 3 speed auto and 4.11 gears 4x2. It will about knock me ito the seat up to 3500 rpm and anything 3700+ there is no power and you stop moving. It has a Holly 2 barrel Identical to the one on my 1968 stock 302/289. A 500 cfm should feed a stock 351 up to 5000 rpm, so either the carb is a 350 holley or the cam is very small.56000 mi on the odometer with a rebuilt engine, I have no idea how many miles are on the truck or moter because it is so simple to change the odometer reading.
 
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