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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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well i should've said it was a 4wd tractor we hocked to, there was no way we would've hurt that monster.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Where is this field you are going to wheel at? Better hope its not someones that will get ticked off... Yes the city gets really ticked off when people wheel in the park (dont ask) Other than that, have fun and take everyone elses advice about straps and chains.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Oh, yeah...I thought that you meant the truck - You'd be asking to rip the axle tubes out of the pumpkin!

Yeah, public wheeling = bad + lots of adrenalin
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Yes, and it sucks when the cops show up and ask what your doing. I was just the one that was trying to pull my friend's 2wd out. But that's for another thread.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by proeliator
Besides, can you trust a guy who doesn't have a front driveline in his 4x4?
I've got a front driveline . . . I just don't have a front axle.

If you can stretch a real chain with a 6-7 thousand pound truck I'd like to see it. We're talking about chains that are used to move HUGE loads, not the kind of junk you use to keep groceries from falling out of your cart. I've never managed to break a heavy chain but I've snapped the hooks off the end and all that happens is it falls to the ground makes a slight 'pop' towards the truck. That's it. None of this boomerang junk you'll see with straps and cables. Maybe if someone has the time they can dig up the pictures of that truck where the clevis flew through the seat and killed that guy . . . was pretty impressive. There's also a thread not more than 6 months back about the Jeep guy who was killed by a tow strap gone bad.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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I have broke some chains with my 4 wheel drive tractor while trying to pull the drill out of mud, after I drove the tractor out. When a heavy duty chain breaks it does not come straight back at you, with the force we put on them with the tractor they do fly and they go to the side and usually hit the tires about a foot to foot and half off the ground (height it is hooked). So do NOT stand to the side when pulling with a chain unless you want to lose a leg. As for the links flying, I've never seen this, I have seen links that are broke and still hooked to the chain.

My best friends dad was killed when we were in 5th grade when his neighbor got a Tandem truck stuck, and he hooked on with a tow strap to his 4 wheel drive tractor. They used a light duty clevis and when it broke it came thru the back window of the tractor strinking him in the head. He did not die instantly and he didn't hurt or anything. It was when they decided to take him to the hospital to get a few stiches he died. Had internal bleeding they did not know about...

So, after that incident I have never used a strap behind a tractor, and very rarely use them with a pickup, unless it is a heavy duty strap.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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if I have to pull I use the chains I had on my semi 3/8 sched. 80 chain had to be able to support a 20ton coil of steel, and if you really want the best idea for using a strap for the snap of a nylon strap use nothing less than 4" wide stuff, and only about a 10' chunk of it, then hook a 20' 3/8min chain to each truck with the strap inbetween them and use the blanket on the strap that way if it does break the chains will also help pull it to the ground, and it can't get to either vehicle, and for gods sake keep EVERY one out from between the 2 trucks.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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I got to thinking, with a chain, if you have to worry about links flying, would running a piece of small rope or wire through the chain would it stop the links from flying?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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I got to thinking, with a chain, if you have to worry about links flying, would running a piece of small rope or wire through the chain would it stop the links from flying?
Hard to say. I imagine it would help but I don't think it's a guarantee because the link could come off the rope too. If someone wanted to get really trick you could pick up some soft water hose (like the large PVC firehose . . . blue stuff you buy by the foot) and sleeve the chain in it. Then it would never be a concern AND it would be really easy to clean up when you're done.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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I have 25 MUDDY muddy acres to wheel on it is my land so it is cool. I have 60' chain that the links are 1.25" wide so it is good for my uses. I will use an old blanket. Thier will be absolutly NO drinking and I will pull them out. My truck had no trouble pulling my step dads old 2000 dodge dually 4x4 when he sank up to the front bumper and the rear was on dry dirt.OH he was mad so the liile toyota 4x4's, F150's and z71's and dodges and verious 2wds should be easy I will pull from ground that will be as dry at all the chain everyone has can reach. Oh I can't wait a little over a week a way.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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well i didn't mean to bring this back but i just wanted to show everyone that even 3/8" grade 8 logging chain can stretch. this was the same chain but i cut it in half so i could have 2 chains that were equal in length. the chain on the left (for those without sharp eyes) is the stretched one. it is about a foot, foot 6" longer than than the other and they started out exactly the same length!

of course this was the same night i broke my t-case in half so i wasn't exactly being easy! although i will say it never broke but it is out of service now, i have cut it up so no one can use it again.





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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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well i didn't mean to bring this back but i just wanted to show everyone that even 3/8" grade 8 logging chain can stretch.
-cutts-
Wow, I've never seen logging chain that tiny. In our outfit we wouldn't use chain that light to latch our tail gates. I guess thats the problem, my idea of "heavy duty" is different than most peoples
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Wow, I've never seen logging chain that tiny. In our outfit we wouldn't use chain that light to latch our tail gates. I guess thats the problem, my idea of "heavy duty" is different than most peoples
it may be small but this has been the only time i have had stretched this chain... i have been using it for about 6 years now and this is the first!

i dont like having to carry chain as heavy as my truck but hey thats just me! not to mention i try to winch before i ******!

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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fishmanndotcom
i dont like having to carry chain as heavy as my truck but hey thats just me!
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Yea, thats the problem with real chain...its crazy heavy!
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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A good sized chain you're looking at maybe 80 pounds. Do you think that makes a difference in a 6000-7000 pound truck?
 
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