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From: Damascus-Boring, Ore
Originally Posted by DMAX-HD
When you say 'out of warranty' do you mean completely or if they feel something that may have been caused by the modification? If so how would they prove something like that?
You might get a power window or piece of trim adjusted, but for all practical purposes that truck is driving without a warranty.
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Megalodon1-"This is the single arguement which has never inspired me at all - SFA superiority to IFS. Who cares really? I don't - not for a single solitary minute. There are two classes of 4x4 owners - those who off road very often and put more strain on front axle components, and those who buy it for the increased resale or the one or two possible chances of actually needing it - you know, the rather have and not need mentality.
It's common knowledge that 4wd will usually increase the resale value of any given vehicle by about 1,800.00 during the time of resale (unless your in an area where there is a large need for 4x4 vehicles), that's nice considering it's a 3,000.00 factory option.
As far as having it incase you need it - 3000.00 pays a butt load of tow bills. I've been on all sorts of off road job sites, many I thought I'd never get out once going in - but had to go in anyway, I've never been stuck in my 2wd's - not even in the worst sugar sand - course being honest, there were no real bad grades to overcome either.
2wd makes the whole truck much more useable IMO. 4x4 is a compromise - you give up user friendliness for extra traction. This is a compromise worth making when you actually NEED the extra traction. Load height, heavy payload handling characteristics, fuel mileage, turn radius, road handling, center of gravity, trailer handling - ALL are MUCH better with a 2WD truck with independent front suspension. And you compromise some of all these qualities for added traction with a solid axle 4x4.
Enter IFS 4x4. This is so simple yet none see - you retain the real advantages of
2WD while gaining the added traction of 4WD.
What is there to argue here? If you want SFA - go buy a truck which has it! If you do severe off roading or use heavy snow plows you need it - no need to justify! If you want a truck which is better for EVERYTHING else and don't need added traction - 2WD can't be beat! If you want the added traction of 4x4 but would like to retain most of the advantages of 2WD(I say "most" because maintenance and initial cost will still be more), then get a 4WD with IFS."
Good post- but the difference between 2WD and a 4X4 is closer to $6K up here. Even on a 10 yr old truck, you'll still see a $3K swing. It just isn't cost-effective to buy a 2WD in the Pacific Nwst.
It's common knowledge that 4wd will usually increase the resale value of any given vehicle by about 1,800.00 during the time of resale (unless your in an area where there is a large need for 4x4 vehicles), that's nice considering it's a 3,000.00 factory option.
As far as having it incase you need it - 3000.00 pays a butt load of tow bills. I've been on all sorts of off road job sites, many I thought I'd never get out once going in - but had to go in anyway, I've never been stuck in my 2wd's - not even in the worst sugar sand - course being honest, there were no real bad grades to overcome either.
2wd makes the whole truck much more useable IMO. 4x4 is a compromise - you give up user friendliness for extra traction. This is a compromise worth making when you actually NEED the extra traction. Load height, heavy payload handling characteristics, fuel mileage, turn radius, road handling, center of gravity, trailer handling - ALL are MUCH better with a 2WD truck with independent front suspension. And you compromise some of all these qualities for added traction with a solid axle 4x4.
Enter IFS 4x4. This is so simple yet none see - you retain the real advantages of
2WD while gaining the added traction of 4WD.
What is there to argue here? If you want SFA - go buy a truck which has it! If you do severe off roading or use heavy snow plows you need it - no need to justify! If you want a truck which is better for EVERYTHING else and don't need added traction - 2WD can't be beat! If you want the added traction of 4x4 but would like to retain most of the advantages of 2WD(I say "most" because maintenance and initial cost will still be more), then get a 4WD with IFS."
Good post- but the difference between 2WD and a 4X4 is closer to $6K up here. Even on a 10 yr old truck, you'll still see a $3K swing. It just isn't cost-effective to buy a 2WD in the Pacific Nwst.
Last edited by polarbear; Mar 3, 2005 at 04:52 PM.
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Originally Posted by polarbear
Out...as in, if the failure is chassis related in any way shape or form, it will not be covered. Out...as in oversized tires confuse the ECM, the ABS, and it's not legal for emissions. Out...as in, if the transmission fails, it could be related to an aftermarket modification.
You might get a power window or piece of trim adjusted, but for all practical purposes that truck is driving without a warranty.
You might get a power window or piece of trim adjusted, but for all practical purposes that truck is driving without a warranty.
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From: PA
Originally Posted by polarbear
Good post- but the difference between 2WD and a 4X4 is closer to $6K up here. Even on a 10 yr old truck, you'll still see a $3K swing. It just isn't cost-effective to buy a 2WD in the Pacific Nwst.
