you want to know how? post it and i'll go in to more detail for you . for now i just swaped from a 1/2 ton to a 3/4 ton.and yes i used all the parts . i been doing this for a long time. there;s some details people are saying that are not needed to do this.it;s
alot easier than you think to flip a front end.time and know how to doit right.you can do this with very little i beam bending.and it does,nt matter how high you want to jack it up in the front.i,ll go into ground clearence later and what makes the body get higher.this is with out useing a body lifting kit.you can even go up to 18/44 tires. all this and more later.

 

fordman100 Would you post the how to for me or email me 66ford400 I would really like to do this. I would like to be able to put at least 32's under it, more is better though!

Thanks

 

alright this may take awhile .first of all do you mean 32'' tires uder the front or back?
it's obvious you can only get so much ground clearence flipping your front end stock.
the only added ground you can give tour truck is with taller tires thats why we use 900/16 they are tall and skinny.they also help the truck drive better.
first of all just how high do you wany your truck to be?what i mean is your i-beams will always have the same ground clearence .i can tell how to make the frame higher

 

I understand that the I beams will be no higher from the ground. How high can you go without changing a bunch of other stuff. Like just flipping the beams how much does that give you? I would like to be able to put my 32" tires under the truck front and rear with no problem. they fit now, but if I hit a good bump they rub the fender. I just want to have a nice high ride.:-)

 

first of all do you know how to flip the front end ? there are simple things that are required to do this and and they must be done .if you don't you will have major problems .i can't remember right off hand about the hight flipped stock i'll post it tomorrow.either way flipped stock you will have room for your tires.the things they are asking about camber and caster is not a big problem.as long as you stay stock flipped.like i said we been doing this for years.and have'nt wrecked a flip yet.
so maybe it will be easy for you to understand all this and it does require some mechanical know how.like i said the more you know when start the less problems you
want have to figure out on your own.wish i had some way to send you some pics
i don't have any way to post them on the net .

 

I have the machanical ability. It looks like it will be easy enough as long as I know what to flip. Is there a way on here I can send you my email addy?

Thanks for the help
Patrick

 

66ford, i worked as a suspension tech in the late 80's and early 90's. I modified any and all types of trucks during this period. The flip you seek will give you clearance
and if my memory is correct, the trick is to put the ds axle on the ps, and the ps on ds. The design of a ford PU twin I-beam requires that the rear be 2"( two inches)
higher in back. Now correct me fordman100 but you can do this with a minimum of
parts. Shocks should be beefed up and limiting straps installed. The deal is to have nearby a shop who knows how to align a twin I-beam ford. This involves spring and
sway bar installation. Where do you live? This was a common thing in south Florida.
Guys were running 36's with new springs. I will state again the need to have the truck
up in the back 2" so when you haul something it will not tractor down the road pigeon
toed.!!!!! Do you need parts ?????? I have rear ends and frames and doors. 302w/c6,
Tires and ford spoke rims, wagon spokes.

 

I hate to bust every ones bubble here but, you can not just flip the I-beams. Geometrically it won't line up. Look here.
So far I have found 3 ways to raise a stock I-beam truck front end.
1) Buy an after market setup ie. Autofab.
2) The above mentioned
3) Ethan’s lift.
Again, without major modification there is no simple lift if you chose to go the flip route.
I am probably 80% finished with my flip. Here is what I have accomplished so far. I will hopefully have the kingpins in this weekend and then it's cutting the rivots to take out the existing pivot mounts and then install the new ones in their new location.
I am also contemplating adding Ethan’s bracket idea into the mix for the fun of it.
Side note, the idea that just by flipping you increase the height 4", from measuring the centerline of the Beam to the C/L of the spindle. After the flip, I had to raise the rear 5"s to get the rear even with the front. I believe the actual measurement is 2 1/2"s not 2"s. Alternatively, if I add Ethan's 4" brackets to the flip that’s 6 1/2" on a stock front end.
If you have figured out another way of doing the "flip"; please post pics or explain really good. Saying that you have done this without showing how it's done; helps no one.

Robert P.

 

I_Thnk_Ford other than time what do you hvae into this? It can be done as you are doing it. I talked to a local shop here in Daytona beach and they said that they can bend my beams and do what ever else needs to be done to get it right. I just don't want to do this and then have to put 700 bucks in parts and alignment work into when I can buy an autofab kit for around $500.

dutch302 I don't know what parts I need yet, BUT what year doors do you have?

 

well the flip sounds possible, but it sounds like more than you really need 66. Just install the body lift and you should be up and running. with a significant frame lift you can get the 32's in no problem, and maybe go up a few inches. I'm pretty sure that drop spindles are made for this truck, where you can lift the truck up to four inches. The flip may or may not be easy, but it sounds a little dangerous to me. I'm not sure you want to lift that truck that high. You're not building a free runner are you?

 

I can't install a body lift as I have the truck with the steering box close to the firewall. All the kits say they will not work with this. Where would I be able to get a spindle kit. I have looked and found none.

 

Well I'm hearing you can flip it, you can't flip it, your gonna wreck it, It's easy to do, you gotta raise your rear end 2", 2 1/2 inches, 5 inches. Why don't one of you guys who have done it successfully write a tech article on it so we all know how it's done. I'm still as confused as I was when I started reading this thread.

 

well it's the ford f-100 man to the guy that don 't want to bust a bubble .
first of all post your phone number i'll call you .you are going to be surprized
when i send pics of under my 78- ford with a 77- 3/4 ton model flipped front already under my truck and ready to ride . i have said it before we have lots of trucks in my town perry fla and some guys may see this and he's not kidding .we been flipping front ends 20 yrs . SOME of the people who come to our
pinetree festival mudd bogg every year. they come from all over to this event.
now with that said . take the complete front end out of truck . leave the tires on the i-beams you roll it aroud easier. flip the passenger side and put under the driver side. do the same for the driver side just flip them and swap sides.go ahead and replace the radious arm bushings if you need to it would not hurt. now the reason you even mess with the king -pins is you have a little spacer between the i-beam and spindle.when flipped this is now on the top. knock the king -pins down and move the spacer back to the bottom of the i-beam.
the weight of the truck rides on this.its metal to metal if you don't also makes for a no binding situation.put it all back together and you shuold be able figure out how your tire rods ends go .and yes you can swap spindles back if want the
brake calipers bleeders to be back on top. IF ANYONE NEEDS PICTURES I CAN'T POST YET I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT COMPUTRE I'LL GIVE ADRESS SEND ME A DISPOLAB LE CAMERA .

 

fordman is right, I am originally from g'ville and the first one i knew about were about thirty years ago, I had afriend from Davie Florida and my family(brother) was also in the lakeland area. I did not participate in the swaps but i saw a lot of woodsguys,
Boggers and such with 2wd running big tires. The rage then were 4wheelRVT and
these guys were rooting around with these trucks in boggs, the glades(backtrails)
and those swamps all around central,south,and this obviously has migrated to Perry.
When i was working on trucks this had sorta died out though. That being said i do know in theory what these guys were doing. Just as fordman100 said flip the right and put it on the left. This maintains the negative aspect of the design of the twin I-Beam
Suspension. There is a guy here in Jacksonville who will align any vehicle. Hart Haven,
They are located on US90 at the intersection of picketville road. So fella's listen to the ol fordman and learn something. (I have two ford frames and a few windshields,
doors, two columns, and a lot more). I can tell from this mans(fordman100)terminology that he is not an engineer type but thats ok. He is dead on the money with his methods(leaving the tires attatched). This is how the fella's made some of the early pre-runners. Have fun and call me on my cell phone if you want 66ford400.

 

Hey fordman if get over to perry when and what nite do you guys bogg.
Do you go to Mayo? I have not been down that way lately but a good
truck boggin is definately out of the question.