What kind of oil do you use in your Escape
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#18
Originally Posted by MazdaRangerGuy
Please don't run 10w30 in this engine.. it will sludge it up quick and in a hurry, even if it is synthetic.
Use 5w30 at the HEAVIEST, 5w20 if the temperature will go below 0F
Use 5w30 at the HEAVIEST, 5w20 if the temperature will go below 0F
Oil will NOT "sludge-up" by itself.
I'm guessing thaty straight 50 weight could be used in these engines without major damage, but it would not sludge up. Sludge comes from contamination, not type of oil.
#19
Originally Posted by DoctorCAD
Well, that is a new one. I thought I heard them all, coming from an air-cooled V-twin discussion board. You think car guys have oil opinions, I've seen fights over oil types.
Oil will NOT "sludge-up" by itself.
I'm guessing thaty straight 50 weight could be used in these engines without major damage, but it would not sludge up. Sludge comes from contamination, not type of oil.
Oil will NOT "sludge-up" by itself.
I'm guessing thaty straight 50 weight could be used in these engines without major damage, but it would not sludge up. Sludge comes from contamination, not type of oil.
That contamination statement regarding sludge is dead on. Always has been and I cannot see that ever changing.
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#21
Hysterical
30 weight will "sludge up". That's funny.
The only downside of using 10/30 is that it won't flow as easily on startup in weather colder than 0F.
That's why in the winter it recommended to use 5/20 or 5/30.
And there will be almost zero gas milage differences with 5/20 and 5/30. A half mile per gallon max. under any conditions.
The way engines sludge is not changing out the oil frequently and/or owning sludge monster engines from Toyota, and Dodge Intrepids.
Use 5/20 MC or 5/30 MC with confidence under any driving conditions.
The only downside of using 10/30 is that it won't flow as easily on startup in weather colder than 0F.
That's why in the winter it recommended to use 5/20 or 5/30.
And there will be almost zero gas milage differences with 5/20 and 5/30. A half mile per gallon max. under any conditions.
The way engines sludge is not changing out the oil frequently and/or owning sludge monster engines from Toyota, and Dodge Intrepids.
Use 5/20 MC or 5/30 MC with confidence under any driving conditions.
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What's all this talk about oil viscosity? Use what Ford recommends, 5W-20, they built the damn engine, they should know what kind of oil to put in it.
I use any reputable brand oil that may be on sale, as long as it is the viscosity the car maker recommends, in this case 5W-20. I have always preferred Pennzoil and have used for over 40 years in my cars and never had a problem. Actually Pennzoil and Quaker State are the same oil basically, they merged quite a few years ago. I never figured out the advantage of using synthetic oil instead of regular oil, to me it just seemed like over priced oil and since I change my oil every 4000 miles, it seems like a waste of money.
I use any reputable brand oil that may be on sale, as long as it is the viscosity the car maker recommends, in this case 5W-20. I have always preferred Pennzoil and have used for over 40 years in my cars and never had a problem. Actually Pennzoil and Quaker State are the same oil basically, they merged quite a few years ago. I never figured out the advantage of using synthetic oil instead of regular oil, to me it just seemed like over priced oil and since I change my oil every 4000 miles, it seems like a waste of money.
#24
Originally Posted by Shiftuself
Here's a question; what's the real difference between Mobil 1 and any other synthetic (other than the obvious hype)?
Somebody menitoned it earlier, but the motorcycle world has heated debates about oil. MC riders are typically fanatical about this stuff, but there are more myths perpuated as a result as well. The main reason is that the engine oil is used in the tranny and wet clutch, which provides a whole new set of circumstances for oil, mainly shearing issues that are not present in car usage. Googling motorycle and oil analysis may bring up some good discussions or articles. Quaker state has a decent FAQ on their site in regards to typical myths, though some of it comes across as pure marketing crap. Motorcycle Consumer News and Sport Rider have done test articles that can be found on their respective websites
Last edited by license2ill; 12-05-2005 at 05:08 AM.
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#26
I see a few people her recommending MC oil ( I presume they mean MotorCraft). I did not know that Ford was in the oil business also besides building automobiles and trucks. Do they have wells and pump there own oil or do they just refine it at one of their refineries..
All seriousness aside, does anyone know who makes MotorCraft oil for Ford?
All seriousness aside, does anyone know who makes MotorCraft oil for Ford?
#27
Stock oil comes from the major refineries. Then they are differentiated by additives and blends. This is how they meet certain certifications and derive synthetics. Who makes MC? Possibly Havoline but I'm not sure. I've used it for many years and at less than $2 per semi-synthetic quart it's got a good price.
Oil is probably like oil filters. About half a dozen companies actually make the product but different oils/filters have different specs and they just stamp the name on the product per end sellers request. I use Wix filters and they are the same as NAPA Gold products.
Oil is probably like oil filters. About half a dozen companies actually make the product but different oils/filters have different specs and they just stamp the name on the product per end sellers request. I use Wix filters and they are the same as NAPA Gold products.
#28
Unless Ford just made a recent change, MC oil is produced by Conoco/Phillips. The 'synthetic blend' is actually group II + upto 50% group III (5w-20, 5w-30, 10w-30 weights). The formulation is almost identical to the other Conoco/Phillips brands: Trop Artic, Conoco Hydroclear, Kendall, etc.
All the Conoco blends are excellent motoroils. Many good UOAs for MC on Bobistheoilguy.
I've used MC (or Trop Artic when MC is sold out) in my rides for the past 10 yrs.
As previously mentioned, I used to use Mobil 1 in my GT, but no longer can justify the $$, especially since I'm not interested in pursuing extended oil drain intervals. Nowdays most (reputable) petroleum motoroils do use group II+, and/or group III (severly refined/hydrocracked) base stocks in meeting the new API SM requirements.
05 Escape Limited 3.0
02 Mustang GT 4.6
97 F150 Off Road 4.6
97 Probe 2.0
95 Probe GT 2.5
All the Conoco blends are excellent motoroils. Many good UOAs for MC on Bobistheoilguy.
I've used MC (or Trop Artic when MC is sold out) in my rides for the past 10 yrs.
As previously mentioned, I used to use Mobil 1 in my GT, but no longer can justify the $$, especially since I'm not interested in pursuing extended oil drain intervals. Nowdays most (reputable) petroleum motoroils do use group II+, and/or group III (severly refined/hydrocracked) base stocks in meeting the new API SM requirements.
05 Escape Limited 3.0
02 Mustang GT 4.6
97 F150 Off Road 4.6
97 Probe 2.0
95 Probe GT 2.5
Last edited by hulkster2; 12-27-2005 at 01:09 PM.
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