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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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i have a 1990 ford bronco with a 351w and i would like to put a manuel transmision in but iv never even seen a 90 or knewer bronco with a manuel tranny so if you have any pictures or know what i would have to do to put one in i would greatly appreciate it
 
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Maybe a Juan transmission, or a Pablo transmission, but never a Manuel transmission.

Sorry, I couldn't resist that one... But seriously, Ford never put a manual transmission behind a 351 in a Bronco. All the 351 Broncos were automatics. They had manual transmissions on the I6 and the 302. I believe that those transmissions would work with a 351 though, but I am not 100% sure. I don't recall ever seeing a manual transmission behind a 351 in a pickup either, but if they did then that would probably work as well.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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If you are going to do it do it right and put a ZF manual tranny in behind it. They are out of the F250's and they have ones that mounted to a 351W. I know there are some guys on full size broncos site that have done it..you should ask them. They say its a pretty easy swap. You also will want the pedals from a F150 not the truck you get the tranny from becuase something like the bolt pattern is different. They will know though...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JBronco
Ford never put a manual transmission behind a 351 in a Bronco. All the 351 Broncos were automatics.
How'bout the the '78 - '79 Broncos? I don't think they were all AT, or only the 400's came with stick. And the early to mid 80's models might have had stick with a 351W, too.

I don't recall ever seeing a manual transmission behind a 351 in a pickup either, but if they did then that would probably work as well.
F250's definitely had a 351 with a ZF tranny. Not sure about the F150, though. Personally, I also prefer MT over AT, but IMHO, it's not worth the hassle to convert an AT Bronco into MT. Just buy one that already has a stick.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by aurgathor
How'bout the the '78 - '79 Broncos? I don't think they were all AT, or only the 400's came with stick. And the early to mid 80's models might have had stick with a 351W, too.



F250's definitely had a 351 with a ZF tranny. Not sure about the F150, though. Personally, I also prefer MT over AT, but IMHO, it's not worth the hassle to convert an AT Bronco into MT. Just buy one that already has a stick.
Yeah I was not sure about the pickups, I've never seen a 351 Bronco with a factory manual transmission. But who knows, we were all sure that Ford never made a 2WD Bronco until that guy from Colombia sent in a picture of his and we learned that they did make them, they just didn't sell them in the US. So there may well be a stock 351/stick Bronco but I've never seen one.

Anyway, I agree about just buying a manual trans truck if that is what you want, but if you already have an auto and want to change it then it should not be too bad of a job.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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OK it looks like I am wrong on this one. Check out this mother lode of information that I found. I should know better and hold my tongue about manual transmissions - I hate them and avoid them (except on my Harley of course but that is different).



1978: The Bronco was offered with a 351M or 400 V-8 engine. Both engines had a 2 bbl carb, a T-18 granny first gear 4 spd manual was standard while 3 spd automatic transmission was optional. The transfer case had a 2 Speed w/1.92 low range ratio. Rear axle was the Ford 9" while front was the Dana 44. Front disc brakes were now standard. Round headlights were standard, while square headlights came with the XLT option package.

1979: Square headlights and emissions control equipment, specifically an air pump, vapor canister and a catalytic converter became standard.

1980: Ford converted the Bronco with the Twin Traction Beam front suspension. This front axle still incorporated the Dna 44 carrier. Ford 9 " was still out back. Transfer case was now the NP 208 w/2.61 low range. Standard motor was the 300 CI inline 6 (w/ manual trans only). Optional motors were the 302 and 351 cid V-8's. 3.00 axle ratio was introduced, 3.5 was optional. Auto locking hubs were now optional also. Bronco dimensions for 1980 were reduced by 2.7 inches in length and 1.1 inches in width. Body was heavily restyled with cleaner lines and new grille.

1981: Changes included a 4 spd overdrive manual trans with a .71 4th gear The 4 spd with granny first was still available. Engine options remained. Auto-locking hubs were made standard equip. A snow plow package was offerd for the first time.

1982 Ford used up their remaining stock of 351M engines before switching over to the 351W in mid-model year 1982. All Ford products, including Bronco, returned to the use of the Ford "Blue Oval". Letters F-O-R-D were removed from the hood and the blue oval was placed in the center of the grille and on the left side of the tailgate.

1983: The I-6 was made avail with the 3 spd auto and the rear seat was now standard. 9" rear dropped in favor of new integral carrier 8.8" rear. Along with that change the stock gear ratio in the rear went from 3.50 to 3.55

1984: the 351 CID V-8, HO motor was offered. This 4bbl motor put out 210 HP at 4000 RPM vs the old 351 CID V-8 which was 156 HP @ 4000 RPM It was basically a 351W with a "Mustang 5.0 HO" treatment: higher compression and a Holley 4 barrel carb. 4.10/4.11 gear ratios were also available as an option, but not with limited slip.

1985: had some engine changes. the I-6 now had a serpentine belt. The big change was the 302, multi-port EFI. HP for the 302 was now 190 and torque was up to 285. This motor was avail in California only with a manual trans. The 351 and 351 HO motors were optional. The Eddie Bauer trim package debuts, brought to the full-sized Bronco due to fabulous success with the Bronco II. Also, midside body moulding changed from chrome to black plastic.

1986: saw the 351 CID standard engine deleted, but the 351 HO was still optional. A new overdive 4 speed automatic (AOD) was offered with a .667, 4th gear when combined with the MPI 302.

1987 featured another major body restyling for the Bronco. The new aero look was in and the Bronco followed suit. The transfer case was replaced by a Borg-Warner 1356 with a 2.69 low range. 4.10 gearing was optional. Touch drive was first offered this year. The 351 HO V-8 was still optional and the 300 CID I-6 recieved Multiport fuel injection (MPI). Rear anitlock brakes were made standard.

1988: Two 5spd manuals, M5OD and M5OD-HD(?) were available. The overdrive was .8 and the HD tranny had a 5.72 first gear. The 351 CID V-8 was treated to MPI. HP increased from 190@3800-210@3800. Torque increased form 295@2600-315@2800. The entire engine line was now fuel injected and also serpentine belt equipped. Transfer case skid plate was now standard.

1989: Tip/slide front seats were made standard to ease rear passenger ingress.

1990: brought the electronic AOD and it was now the standard auto. 300 CID and 351 CID HO engines now featured EEC-IV engine diagnostic connectors.

1991: was the 25th anniversary of the Bronco and no long-term changes were made. However, Ford did make a Silver Anniversary Edition of the Bronco available to commemorate the occasion. This limmited edition Bronco was offered only in Currant Red with gray leather interior. This was the first factory offering of leather seating on the Bronco and was only available on the Silver Anniversary Edition. The Currant Red paint was also exclusive to this edition. The E4OD became the stock automatic transmission.

1992: realized the last major body restyling in the Bronco's lifespan. This change offered much more swept front sheetmetal that curved in at the fenders. Power window/lock controls moved up the doorpanel towards the top to make them more accessible. Power mirrors are now offered for the first time. Rear passengers are restrained via integral shoulder/seat belts. Colored stripe in the tailgate bezel is changed from red to black. Leather seating is now an option on XLT and Eddie Bauer trim levels. Ford also offered the NITE option package, for only this year. The package was all black, including the top. Special graphics were applied.

1993: brought the end of the 300 CID I-6. 4-wheel anitlock brakes were now standard. Transfer case was now a New Process model 200 with low range of 2.69.

1994: brought us a drivers side airbag, side door beams and CFC free A/C. Fake rivets disappear from the optional aluminum wheels. Center hub bezel on steel and aluminum wheels changed from red to black. Californai V8's went from Speed density to MAF.

1995: Ford reprogrammed the E4OD automatic trannsmission for smoother shifts. The 351 CID V-8 went to sequential MPI with mass air in california. Lower body side trim color for Eddie Bauer package is changed from the traditional tan to bronze.

1996: last year for the Bronco, debutted OBD-II electronics. Side mirrors with integral signal lights were offered for the first time. 302 CID and 351 CID HO MPI motors were still offered. The axles were still the 8.8 inch out back offered in 1983 and Dana 44 TTB front that started in 1980. All V8's got MAF as well.

1997: Sadly, the Bronco name is laid to rest in favor of the new "Expedition" model that is based on the new F150. Pent up demand has these things currently flying out the door as fast as the dealers can unload them off the trucks (at least in Austin - they are already EVERYWHERE). Only offered with 4-doors, the vehicle is aimed squarely at the Chevy Tahoe and Suburban. Dual air bags and 4 wheel ABS are standard. Venerable 302 and 351 Windsor motors are gone in favor of 4.6L and 5.4L variants of the Ford "modular" OHC motors. Front suspension is now double A-arm (a'la Chevy, unfortunately) and 4x4 models are sprung by torsion bars up front. First Ford 2WD offering in this class. I lament the loss of this proud marque but I suppose it was nice of Ford to set it up so that there will NEVER be a 2WD Bronco.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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LOL - check out the very last line of that otherwise very good account of the Bronco's progression through the years. We now know for sure that Ford did make 2WD Broncos, actually quite a lot of them. And it's possible, and probable, that a few were imported into the US. So if someone swears to you that they saw a 2WD Bronco, before you get all high and mighty and laugh at them, consider that they may have really seen one!
 
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