Notices

400 Machine work advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 9, 2005 | 10:38 AM
  #1  
putzhall3's Avatar
putzhall3
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: NW Ohio
400 Machine work advice

After reading for hours upon hours on this forum I have decided to do a complete rebuild on my 400. Although I have learned a lot I still have a few questions.

This engine will be going in my 78 F-150 mud truck and I want the best off road perfomance I can get. I am not at all worried about streetability, just pure offroad power. I know which cam and pistons(Badger) I want to go with. Now my question is in the machine work. Should I go ahead and have it bored .30 over do a valve job and maybe have the heads shaved a little or just leave the heads alone. Also should I ahve all new bearings put in while I have it apart?
You guys are the experts so any advice you can give will be greatly appreciated. If there is anything else that I should do please let me know as this is the first engine I have rebuilt by myself, I promised I won't be offended by anything so fire away!
 
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2005 | 11:15 AM
  #2  
ranchero77's Avatar
ranchero77
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
From: in a house
if your going with the badger flat tops I would not mill the heads the unless they need it. keep it pump gas friendly. there is power to gain in some minor head work, search for that info here if you haven't allready.
new bearings is a given. going .030 over bore will benifit the new cam and improve engine response. if your doing the assembly part yourself have the machine shop check the block and crank, do the valve work and install the correct valve springs for your cam, install the cam bearings and new freeze plugs. then go from there. and since its your 1st rebuld I would have a friend with some experience help so that you don't have to learn the hard way from any mistakes. cost can add up quick but the more you learn the more you will save by doing yourself on future builds.
 
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2005 | 11:43 AM
  #3  
MitchPeters's Avatar
MitchPeters
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 521
Likes: 0
From: Alexandria, Ohio
Since you are in Ohio Sunoco Ultra 94 octane gas is available or BP 93 octane, although it is about $0.30 a gallon more than 87 octane. Depending on how the block measures out, it will probably need to be decked and the heads trued. That will give you a little higher CR. My crank had to be turned down to .010 on the main and rod journals. I had the rods resized, mains align bored, cylinders .030 over using a deck plate. Normal procedures. Since you seem to be interested in RPM's I would have it all balanced. That is the only thing I did not do that I wish I had. The valve guides will probably need replaced and more than likely the exhaust valves due to high wear on the shafts. Valve seats should be ok but have them checked and a good 3 angle valve job. Check with more than one machine shop about prices and how they do the work and ask others that have used them what there work was like. Fowler in Columbus would be a great one to look into but may be to far from you. Have you read the Hot Rod 400 torque engine build up? Heavy duty push rods and at least heavy duty rocker arms are a must. I used Crane versions and they were much thicker than stock. There may be roller style replacements that don't require studs. My engine saw lots of high rpm's and lasted over 120k miles. I had forged TRW pistons which were not flat tops. Had I known flat tops were available I would have used them.
No internet for info at that time. I like a mechanical secondary carb over vacum secondary carbs. I would go with a good ignition system. If you use the Duraspark then you will need to modify the stock distributer because it will keep advancing the timing as the rpm's increase. I cracked all 16 piston skirts and a couple broke off. I am assuming from the cylinder firing while the piston was to far down in the bore.
 
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2005 | 01:25 PM
  #4  
MBDiagMan's Avatar
MBDiagMan
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,232
Likes: 3
From: NE Texas
Everything sounds good in the responses you've gotten except that I would not decide about boring, or turning of the crankshaft until the machine shop has measured everything.

When rebuilding an engine it is impossible to know what is worn out until you get in there. You might find that the bores will accept rings and be good to go. If you want to change pistons, then you will need to have the block bored and have the pistons ready for the machinist so that he can fit them to the block when boring.

For your purposes, you will be able to go with a little more cam, but remember, this is a long stroke, low rpm torque motor, so don't cam it for a high rpm redline. I would think that you would not want to go any more than about 225 degrees duration at .050 valve lift. 230 degrees would be the absolute top limit.

As the other guys said, don't mill the heads any more than necessary to straighten them since you are using the flat top pistons. In fact if the heads are straight, and there's no reason that they shouldn't be, then don't cut on the surface at all.

Keep us posted on your build.

Good luck,
Doc
 
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:51 AM
  #5  
mark a.'s Avatar
mark a.
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,922
Likes: 153
I would get the blocks align bore checked & the rods reconditioned.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:21 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE