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I don't care about the horsepower really... AND we make frequent trips to the Playa in the blackrock desert riding motorcycles where the fine silt dust covers everything when you get there. Plus I will be towing a 12,000lb 5th wheel off road in that dust. )
Not to flame you, but I would not want the aftermarket filter if your driving in this stuff... K&N with OuterWears is a better conbination when you run in sandy silt conditions.....or go back to the stock filter.
the mech at my local ford dealer said you don't want to cut the fiberglass out ,it will let rain in driving down the road , has anyone had this problem?
Well, goes to show what he knows
I've been told some FANTASTIC stories by some "experts" that knew less than me
I've had the Zoodad on two trucks for at least 3 years... and no issues...
again, not sure if it REALLY helps, but that's another thread
Other than zoodad, I am trying to figure how to get more air flow to the stock filter without bugs, birds, rain, snow, rocks, etc. There's got to be a way without going out and buying one of the off shelf things.
Other than zoodad, I am trying to figure how to get more air flow to the stock filter without bugs, birds, rain, snow, rocks, etc. There's got to be a way without going out and buying one of the off shelf things.
If you own a welder and a torch, plenty of room behind the grill and front bumper to install a forced cold air system. Forcing the cold air (ram) is more effective.
Until someone does some flow dynamics on an actual vehicle, we won't know...
I mean the beast could be building up such a huge pressure wave that the air is flowing AWAY from the intake area...
(I doubt it, but it's possibile... ) afte all, it's NOT exactly known for it's aerodynamic properties - about like a shoebox
Not to flame you, but I would not want the aftermarket filter if your driving in this stuff... K&N with OuterWears is a better conbination when you run in sandy silt conditions.....or go back to the stock filter.
Everyone I know runs a K&N and we all go to the same desert every summer...no one has had a problem. Yet...that is.
What is outerwears? I will look into it if it will benefit!
Outerwears. Basically a foam pre-filter cover. Good idea if you're traveling in dusty situations. I'll even put one prior to my Donaldson filter if it's that dusty.
As for Zoodad mod. I think I felt the difference when I did mine. Simple to do with a Dremel tool and steady hand.
No problems with rain/snow in the filter even here in Washington, but I didn't run a tube from the filter box to the core support. That I think would be a design for trouble. Forced ram air yes, but would might force rain in.
Everyone I know runs a K&N and we all go to the same desert every summer...no one has had a problem. Yet...that is.
What is outerwears? I will look into it if it will benefit!
Phone number only for OuterWears.....800-967-3450
Give them a call for your application. To set things straight your not visually going to see a problem up front with dirt. Check inside your intake tube and you will notice a light coating of dirt or your engine builder will show you the damage with a long term use.
Show me the money$$$...For the intial cost over the factory Donaldson and the low performance per dollar, I my opinion it is not worth changing a filter that has an already good design. As the creature of habit we are, we love to change things. Now in a racing application, any improvement is well justified. You would be surprised what man will do for an extra 1/2 HP.
My thoughts...If I wanted to improve intake volume I would start at the turbo and work towards the filter, changing the inter-cooler. Then a K&N filter would find itself in the system. I would much question the use of an oil finding that it may coat the inter-cooler which would defeat the application and purpose.
This is just my opinion...I am sticking with stock.
I like SBV have done some research on the aftermarket filter thing. I had one for my 03 and 04 and the thing I found consistently was that the aftermarket just didn't make that much difference one way or the other. I've got exhaust, programmer, etc., and to me the oiled filter just didn't filter as well. Perhaps a tweak better mileage on the interstate over a long period of time, but negligable. I did notice that the filtration was NOT as good, and the filter oil is an extreme sore spot for ford engineering because of the MAF sensor. Over oil and you freak out the sensor. Underoil and you take a chance on your engine protection. Donaldson has been making John Deere filters since I can remember. There was/is NO better filter on the market. Seems like cheap insurance to me to protect a very expensive investment. As for the zoodad mod??? I have it also--since moving from Arkansas down to Texas. No extra bugs, birds, or unwanted critters and I GARONTEE Texas and Arkansas have enough for anywhere else in these United States. As for water ingestion into the filter??? Can't tell any has ever been there and besides, by the time it gets to the motor it's well filtered anyways and the moisture will only HELP your EGT's and maybe even improve your performance (if you're so inclined on wet roads).
I run an open mac system for about two days now and you can reallyt hear the whine of the turbo. Yeah stock might be great but who cares stock stinks. If we all wanted stock you wouldn't be in hear looking.Keep on truckin
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