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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Allison transmission??

Can someone validate this question?? Is my 2004 Powerstroke 5 speed an Allison product?? I thought Ford makes it but a friend said that GM makes it for Ford
 
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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Can someone validate this question?? Is my 2004 Powerstroke 5 speed an Allison product?? I thought Ford makes it but a friend said that GM makes it for Ford
That is absolutely false; it was designed and engineered by Ford and Ford only.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Thanks

Thanks for the quick response!! I felt i was right but did not want to argue until I heard from someone here.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Isn't it a copy of the Allison ?
Wasn't there some suits filed for copyright infringement ?
or just more 'net rumours ?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dPrasse01
Isn't it a copy of the Allison ?
Wasn't there some suits filed for copyright infringement ?
or just more 'net rumours ?
The only thing I am aware of that they have in common is a two-speed planetary. The VFS valving is quite different, IMO nowhere near a copy...

However, I can assure you that the TS will withstand the same physical punishment as the Allison (after the bugs are ironed out)- the TS's input, output shafts and torque converters are exceptionally strong. Both transmissions lack high performance holding power in primary drive and overdrive gears.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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ok , thanks ...just some 'net yakking I heard once ...I do not doubt the TS tranny ...I'm loving mine , really makes the big grades in N.Idaho seem like lil hills ...

the Allison 2000 is used in the F650 series ...
 

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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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FYI: It's not the same Allison used in the Chevy/GMC pickup



Originally Posted by dPrasse01
ok , thanks ...just some 'net yakking I heard once ...I do not doubt the TS tranny ...I'm loving mine , really makes the big grades in N.Idaho seem like lil hills ...

the Allison 2000 is used in the F650 series ...
 
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It is kinda funny that Ford made sure that the Torqueshift had the same gear ratios for every gear.... The only gear that isn't the same is the reverse gear, it is kinda a copy cat.
 
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I heard that the Ford Techs took an allison apart and used many of the same designs and what not to make the TS, though. How true is that?
 
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