tractor tires
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Cargo Master
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tractor tires
well kids,
its tax return season and im hoping to do some stuff with the truck so i can do some wheeling in the woods behind my house. i know the property owner and everything will be cool. i made a few phone calls to some stores in my area and i was thinking about getting a set of 36 inch or so tractor tires for the truck. i'm figuring on mounting them on a second set of rims for use when im playing in the mud. i can get new ones for 120 a piece to fit a 16 inch rim. i figure if i buy 4 tractor tires for the mud, i could get a set of four recaps for driving on the street. at these prices im probably looking at around 800 for two sets of tires. this is probably about even with what a might be able to find a set of boggers for and i'd probably get more mileage for the money. i'm not worried about drive line carnage, the things pretty stout, i'm just wandering if theres things i haven't considered in this purchase that might make me change my mind.
thanks
its tax return season and im hoping to do some stuff with the truck so i can do some wheeling in the woods behind my house. i know the property owner and everything will be cool. i made a few phone calls to some stores in my area and i was thinking about getting a set of 36 inch or so tractor tires for the truck. i'm figuring on mounting them on a second set of rims for use when im playing in the mud. i can get new ones for 120 a piece to fit a 16 inch rim. i figure if i buy 4 tractor tires for the mud, i could get a set of four recaps for driving on the street. at these prices im probably looking at around 800 for two sets of tires. this is probably about even with what a might be able to find a set of boggers for and i'd probably get more mileage for the money. i'm not worried about drive line carnage, the things pretty stout, i'm just wandering if theres things i haven't considered in this purchase that might make me change my mind.
thanks
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Make sure that they're for 16" rims and not 16.1" rims like most tractor tires. If they're for 16.1's and you put them on a 16 they'll spin loose and loose a bead. If I remember right you've got a D60 front so your drive train will probably hold up alright if you're not hammering the skinny pedal. Even so there's a good chance of snapping an outer shaft but if that happens you can upgrade then. A lot of times people don't realize how those ag tires hook up. I've done a fair amount of research on this lately and found people snapping rockwell shafts with 44" ags and low HP.
Are you going to be playing strictly in the mud or are you doing trails also?
Are you going to be playing strictly in the mud or are you doing trails also?
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Originally Posted by ivanribic
Are you going to be playing strictly in the mud or are you doing trails also?
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You can get a low rated (as far as number of plies) agg tires in those sizes, its once you get above that 36-38" sizes is when the tires get very stiff, also be sure that you don't get an overly wide tire too, a narrower ag tire flexes better, plus you shouldn't break as much with such a tire. Oh and beware, ag tires will dig you a hole to china faster then a set of boggers (trust me on that) will. Also on the ag tires to get you have to watch the lug spacing and angle, is you get the wrong type the tire will do didly squat in the mud, but the dealer you get the tire from should be able to get you the right tire.
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what kind of trails are we talking about? most of whats around me here is all soft squishy stuff. anytime i've had to dig holes for any weird reason its all dirt. theres actually very little in the way of rocks in this area until you get up into the higher elevations, but in the foothills where i am, its mostly dirt with the occasional palm sized piece of sandstone. most of the areas i go to around me are things like mud pits, fields with mud, trails with alot of mud, just, alot of dirt, and alot of mud. i'm not going to be doing any rock climbing or running any obstacle courses with this truck. so, i guess, anything i do offroad around here is going to involve either dirt or mud. i'm a real stickler for following rules when it comes to safety, so i wont be putting any incorrect size tires on the wrong wheels. wow, im pretty long winded. no wonder people scatter when they see me coming
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If you're sticking to mud and dirt those tires will be fine. If you get into anything hard like rocks they're not going to be of much help. But for what it sounds like you're doing they'll be fine.
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a 23 degree tread would be perfect for the angle (this is what our one tractor uses) and the if the spacing is close together (but further apart than a bogger) it should work perfect.
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Like I said, if you're running in mud and your trails aren't rocky then ags are great. Many of the trails out here have some pretty good rocky sections but if you don't see that then your good to go.
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Cargo Master
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sounds good, thanks kids. i'm going to look at getting a set when my tax return comes back cuz i gotta see if its going to be enough. i haven't seen anyone running a set on here yet. i should have them definately by the first month of summer.
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Man, what a great idea. Never thought of it. We run 16" road tires on the old ford tractors here all the time - just reverse the concept and go with 4x4 front ags.
And in response to the last question, your local tire guys should handle ags.
There are a lot of generic brands priced right and mounting 16s should be no prob for them.
And in response to the last question, your local tire guys should handle ags.
There are a lot of generic brands priced right and mounting 16s should be no prob for them.
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Alls you need to mount the "small" ag tires is a couple of crowbars, some wd-40, the special soap to help seal the bead, air compressor, and some either. Its actually not that bad on the smaller tires.
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Ag tires are the bomb. Even in the rocks. You can get several different types of tread, then go from there. If your into rocks try the ones that look like little squares instead of Chevron lugs or the ones for Skid-Steer loaders. Some are actually turf tires, but they are hard as steel and they wear like it too, but they are still spaced far enough apart to work fair in light mud. If you need 44" tall then look at tires for center pivot sprinklers. They come in 20-something size for rims. I think it's around 22 or 22.5. They come in several types of tread and they are only 4 ply. They are pretty soft as far as carcass strength goes in an ag type tire, and they are around 12-14" wide. It might take a little ingenuity with rim design, but anything is possible with a good torch and welder. You can also try what we used on tractors for traction. You fill the tire with water using a special adaptor for water hoses. It would kill handling all together, but if you needed more weight right at the axle, it could fill the bill.
Good luck and enjoy, wish I could be there having fun in the mud. I'll just have to settle for the rocks out here in the west.
Good luck and enjoy, wish I could be there having fun in the mud. I'll just have to settle for the rocks out here in the west.
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Originally Posted by jfinlen
Ag tires are the bomb. Even in the rocks.
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Saw a few in one of the rag mags awhile back. Looked like one of the rock buggies that you buy pre-fabbed. Guy had rockwells and big ag tires. 2 or 3 pics were showing him in the lead for time and points.
Don't want to offend. Just my way of talking. I don't attend too many of the meets due to job but I think that for the money they are worth looking at. Especially when you price a set of IROKS and they are more than I paid for some of my trucks. My thinking is that, I am not doing this for money. If I save enough money on a set of tires to finance the trip or 2 trips then I can sacrifice a little performance since I'm not competing with anybody. Of course I don't have the power to smoke a set of 44's either and not going to anytime soon. With a lot of power and wheelspeed ag tires might not be what you need.
Don't want to offend. Just my way of talking. I don't attend too many of the meets due to job but I think that for the money they are worth looking at. Especially when you price a set of IROKS and they are more than I paid for some of my trucks. My thinking is that, I am not doing this for money. If I save enough money on a set of tires to finance the trip or 2 trips then I can sacrifice a little performance since I'm not competing with anybody. Of course I don't have the power to smoke a set of 44's either and not going to anytime soon. With a lot of power and wheelspeed ag tires might not be what you need.