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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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air lockers? detoit? some help please
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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I'm about to install ARBs front and rear in my '01 PSD. I chose the ARBs since you can switch them on and off so that you get great traction off road and no change in handling on the street, in the snow/ice, and while towing.
A good install is key so to their operation.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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thankyou do you know the part numbers or where to buy? and do i need to change anything else? thanks gary
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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WCD (www.differentials.com), Drivetrain Superstores (www.drivetrainsuperstores.com), Randy's (www.ringpinion.com) along with a bunch of other places all sell ARBs, Detroits, gears, install kits, etc..

If you give one of the above places a call they can get you pricing on all of the parts you would need.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Question air lockers

do you know what diff is in my truck and how do i figure it out? thanks gary
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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air lockers? detoit? some help please
Why are you going to lockers...how will you be using it? That makes a big difference in what locker you would be happiest with. Detroits are strong and totally maintenance free. ARB's are nearly as strong, but can have reliability problems. Many use ARB's with no problems, but many do have problems. The problems can be leaky internal seals that push gear lube back up the air line which then leaks out, holes in the air lines, and electrical problems with relays and solenoids.

Detroits can have minor handling quirks on the street, which are more noticeable with a stick than an auto. In a heavy truck you probably will never feel it. Detroits have been used in trucks for many years, you can find D70's and D80's in wrecking yards with Detroits. An ARB is an open diff when not locked, so it will be totally invisible on the street.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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rear is fords 10.5 front may be a dana 60 or 50 you need to look at the webing on the front of the diff wher the axle tube gos in some times a tag or sticker may tell you
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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i go off road desert mud ect. i have a warn 16.5 and been asked to pull other superduties out out would like to feel better about not getting stuck myself. if you had your choice which would you install? thanks for the tips gary
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Detroite for the rear Arb up front
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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I wish they would make an OX Lock for the 50.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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Had an Powertraxx put in the father's truck for him. Can't tell it is back there and gets killer traction.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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The rear is no problem I know guys running spools every day. Up front is were it makes a big difference what you use. A Detroit style gets pretty hairy when the roads are slick.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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i go off road desert mud ect. i have a warn 16.5 and been asked to pull other superduties out out would like to feel better about not getting stuck myself. if you had your choice which would you install? thanks for the tips gary
I run Detroits front and rear in my Cherokee, which is what I use off road. My F250 pulls the Jeep trailer and hauls the camper. If you want reliable traction and are willing to live with occasionally feeling the locker, but are not willing to live with any reliablity issues, then go with Detroits. If you want the locker to be absolutely invisible on the street and are willing to risk an ocassional problem, then go with the ARB's. It's a personal thing which is more important.

With an auto trans, the Detroit will be nearly invisible. I never feel mine, but that's partly because I'm very used to how it handles. I'm not willing to live with any potential problems, so I won't run an ARB. In the front, with the hubs unlocked on the street, the locker isn't doing anything so it's invisible. A case can be made for not wanting a front locker (in 4wd) in icy conditions, and here the ARB could be better because you can be in 4wd with the ARB unlocked, but otherwise it won't make a difference. When an ARB is locked it turns into a spool, and a Detroit will still have some differentiation (which is why it's called an automatic locker), so in 4wd on firmer surfaces the Detroit can actually turn better than the ARB.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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