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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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351M Intake Manifold

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I am currently restoring my 1978 Ford Bronco witht he 351M. I currently have the engine torn apart and I am putting the intake manifold back on this weekend. I have the valley pan and i was told it goes on dry with the rubber gaskets at the ends and some silcone in the cracks between the corners where the heads are. The manifold is an edelbrock performer 400. Is there any special pattern to follow when tightening the bolts down and what should they all be torqued to? Any suggestions or comments are welcome. Thanks
 
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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I put aftermarket gaskets on mine and did away with the pan. The 4 center 5/16 torque at 17-25 in a X patern, The 3/8 torque at 22-32 in a cercler patern strating inside and going to the outside.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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You can get the manual for you manifold on edelbrocks website. Toss those rubber strips and just put a thick bead of RTV down instead.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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dont use a thick bead of RTV unless you like your engine bay, under carrige taking a an oil bath!!! DO WHAT THE INSTRUCTIONS SAY! i always use LOCTITE HI-TAC on the intake end gaskets...why? over a period of time the silicone will squeez out causing oil leakes everywhere... the hi-tac will not. use just a dab of silicone at the corners and that is all. using the aluminium valley pan is to your discression. it actually helps...why? it keeps the hot oil directely off the intake therefore reducing your intake air temp which equals more power! ...good luck
 
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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thanks for all the help guys
 
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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from edlebrocks website
"With Edelbrock manifolds, we suggest using RTV silicone sealant instead of end seal gaskets. Apply a 1/4" thick ribbon of sealant across each end seal surface. See Figure 9. "
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/...ral_instr.html
 
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by beeboy
from edlebrocks website
"With Edelbrock manifolds, we suggest using RTV silicone sealant instead of end seal gaskets. Apply a 1/4" thick ribbon of sealant across each end seal surface. See Figure 9. "
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/...ral_instr.html
I've used the RTV on my Cleveland numerous times, never had a problem with leaks. Put the manifold on while it's still wet, will stick to both that way. I've even had trouble getting the manifold off, it sticks so well.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Another thing you can do to make sure it doesn't leak, is if you do use just the silicone on the ends, put the silicone on, set the manifold in place and start your bolts but don't torque them, then wait (preferebly over night) then torque them after the silicone has had a chance to sit up.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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With a center punch go across the front and back of block, abought every 3/4 of a inch, Do the same with the intake. An old engen builder tot me that.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jughead2
Another thing you can do to make sure it doesn't leak, is if you do use just the silicone on the ends, put the silicone on, set the manifold in place and start your bolts but don't torque them, then wait (preferebly over night) then torque them after the silicone has had a chance to sit up.
i did this before, but i let the rtv set on the block for an hour before putting the intake on...it worked for about a year then the RTV started squeezing out and oil leaking so then i went back to the gaskets and HI-TAC and 3 years later its still there!
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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I've never used hi-tac, but it looks useful.
http://www.loctite.us/int_henkel/loc..._Gasketing.pdf

You have to make sure the block/intake surfaces are absolutely clean and oil free. Lots of people use RTV without problems, I wonder what happened in your instance?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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not really sure? i've had to replaced many gaskets at work that people use RTV on the gasket, especially axle seals.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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not really sure? i've had to replaced many gaskets at work that people use RTV on the gasket, especially axle seals.
well, I don't think axle seals are anywhere near its intended use..
I know they have different temperature ratings too, need to make sure you match the product to the application.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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When you centerpunch it this gives what ever you put there something to hold on to, Even gaskets.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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i know i've used the clear silacone made by ge "won't come off"
 
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