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A ? for the hunters
I'm looking at purchasing a new deer rifle and was wondering if anyone could tell me out of the .270 or the .300WSM which is the better all around hunting rifle, i also hunt hogs, and a little bear.
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I read a lot, so here is one thing I read: Nothing has as great a range of ammo as .30-06.
I think .308 might be close as well.
Look at a ballistics chart from an ammo maker:
http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog/rifle.aspx
See if your first choices offer the range of bullet weights available for .30-06 or .308.
So many calibers, so little time.
Good luck with your selection.
I think .308 might be close as well.
Look at a ballistics chart from an ammo maker:
http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog/rifle.aspx
See if your first choices offer the range of bullet weights available for .30-06 or .308.
So many calibers, so little time.
Good luck with your selection.
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Originally Posted by 4.9LFord
I'm looking at purchasing a new deer rifle and was wondering if anyone could tell me out of the .270 or the .300WSM which is the better all around hunting rifle, i also hunt hogs, and a little bear.
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I have a 7mm Remington mag BDL. I really like this rifle. But I would have been equally happy with the .270. In a lot of ways I like the .270 a little better. If you get the magnum it gives you a lot of versatility in picking loads for the type of game you are hunting.
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It is kind of a toss up....the .270 is a fine cartridge...moderate recoil, good accuracy; it is a fine deer cartridge. Bullet selection in a .270 will be fine for deer, but I would not feel comfortable using it on anything much larger. Ammo availability might also be a consideration unless you reload your own.
The .300 WSM is a bit more powerful and more accurate for a given bullet weight....maybe not enough to make a difference...but it is there. Ammo availability is increasing.
It is certainly powerful enough to take the game you mentioned.
If I were in your position, I would choose the .300 WSM. It is more accurate and more powerful than the .270.
The .300 WSM is a bit more powerful and more accurate for a given bullet weight....maybe not enough to make a difference...but it is there. Ammo availability is increasing.
It is certainly powerful enough to take the game you mentioned.
If I were in your position, I would choose the .300 WSM. It is more accurate and more powerful than the .270.
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I think the .308 has all the long distance records that the 30.06 used to own.
So if your Deer are gonna be more than 100 yds the .308 will be great.
My .270 took a Mulie down at such a distance, I was a day older by the time I got to it.
Interestingly the 30.06 is about the smallest calibre allowed to hunt Bison in Alaska.
Something about a bulled weighing 175 Gr or heavier and having 1500 Ft Lbs of energy at 100 Yds. (I may be a little off there, it's the memory with the holes that I'm using tonite)
The .270 is a great Deer, Elk, Moose, Caribou, etc etc etc rifle. The .308 is just as good. I had a .7MM that did very well at those long distances without ruining very much meat.
My personal favorite Deer Rifle, would be the old M-1 Garaand in 30.06. The one I carried around for some years in the ARMY. It never, NEVER, failed when I squeezed that trigger. Always a BANG, never a CLICK!
So if your Deer are gonna be more than 100 yds the .308 will be great.
My .270 took a Mulie down at such a distance, I was a day older by the time I got to it.
Interestingly the 30.06 is about the smallest calibre allowed to hunt Bison in Alaska.
Something about a bulled weighing 175 Gr or heavier and having 1500 Ft Lbs of energy at 100 Yds. (I may be a little off there, it's the memory with the holes that I'm using tonite)
The .270 is a great Deer, Elk, Moose, Caribou, etc etc etc rifle. The .308 is just as good. I had a .7MM that did very well at those long distances without ruining very much meat.
My personal favorite Deer Rifle, would be the old M-1 Garaand in 30.06. The one I carried around for some years in the ARMY. It never, NEVER, failed when I squeezed that trigger. Always a BANG, never a CLICK!
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What are ya'lls opinions on 7mm rifles, i heard that they are better than the 300wsm for longer shots because they dont mess up much meat.
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I'd go for the 300!
And unless you reload, I'd go with a 300WM, not the short.
Because the short will be harder to find.
But that is, if your NOT going to reload.
The .30 cal. range will start @ .110 grain, and go to a .220
The 270 has less weights to chose from.
And I think it's way to light for bear, moose, and big hogs.
(I know that some people do though)
30-06 is a good round, and you'll find it averywhere.
But it's way out dated. And there's much better choices out there.
My second choice would be the 7MM mag.
Just my $.02
Good luck what ever you chose, and happy hunting
And unless you reload, I'd go with a 300WM, not the short.
Because the short will be harder to find.
But that is, if your NOT going to reload.
The .30 cal. range will start @ .110 grain, and go to a .220
The 270 has less weights to chose from.
And I think it's way to light for bear, moose, and big hogs.
(I know that some people do though)
30-06 is a good round, and you'll find it averywhere.
But it's way out dated. And there's much better choices out there.
My second choice would be the 7MM mag.
Just my $.02
Good luck what ever you chose, and happy hunting
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From: Idaho cda postfalls
i really didnt think the 300wsm mag was that accurate and didnt like the way it shoots, i gave mine away hated it. i also have a 300 w mag love it, shoots good more accurate than my short mag. the 270 shot one for years, really liked it for all around gun, took my elk and deer down with ease. i onl shoot one gun for a coupl years before i buy a different one dont want to much wear on one gun, you can never have to many guns there like gold never lose there value.
stay away from pumps and semi autos, just my 2 cents.
stay away from pumps and semi autos, just my 2 cents.
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the .270 would work great, i have taken a cow elk at 400 yards with mine. if you where hunting just bigger game (elk, moose, bear) i would go with the 300 but for mostle deer it its a bit much. one guy i hunt with shoots a 300 mag, he took a mulie dow with that thing and it about blew it in half
as far as accuracy goes, that depends on the gun and the shooter not the cartridge
as far as accuracy goes, that depends on the gun and the shooter not the cartridge
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Stick with the 270 if you primarily hunt deer. IF you feel that you need a larger caliber, i.e. 30 caliber, go with either a 308 or 30-06. My favorite caliber is a 30-06 because of its versatility.
Stay away from "magnums" unless you want a bunch of needless recoil and/or shots out past 400 yards.
Stay away from "magnums" unless you want a bunch of needless recoil and/or shots out past 400 yards.
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From: Bethany, Ok
I agree the 30-06 is the most versatal & will do fine, I have a 7 mag with a muzzle break, less recoil than my Winchester 30-30. A 7 mag is a hopped up 270 basically, a 300 is a bit much, but you can reload for anything in North America for it, if you are recoil shy go with the 308 & shoot it alot, find a bullet that is accurate in your gun & practice, practice, shot placement is the key, but you do have to have enough gun as well, my Browning likes Federal 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip(sub inch @ 100 yrds) would not group less than 2" with Wichester Ballistic Silver tips140's or Remington Corelock 150's, shot Federal 160 Nosler partitions & did not expand on whitetails, hard blood trail, if you are hiring an outfitter for bear, ask the guide what bullet to use, they have seen & know what works best, sorry to ramble, but that is just MO, find what you feel right with & get then bullet that shoots the most accurate & PRACTICE, especialy if you are going to be shooting over 200 yards, I took a deer this year & 382 yards & he dropped within 60 yards with a double lung, shot one last year in the spine & not that much damage to the back straps about an orange size, gook luck