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Check out the website ... dogs next year apparently ...
www.savingsandclone.com
Mike is right, they say right on the website that you don't get the SAME animal as learning, upbringing & experiences all factor into the animal's personality.
www.savingsandclone.com
Mike is right, they say right on the website that you don't get the SAME animal as learning, upbringing & experiences all factor into the animal's personality.
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Where can I get a clone of Heather Locklear? 
Seriously,I would not have a pet cloned,like others have said,at best it would be a twin and I would not want a reminder of the pet I had lost.That and the fact that I could rescue a whole lot of animals with 60k,,,WHAT?What am I saying,if I had 60k I sure wouldnt let it go to the dogs!But 60k for a Heather Locklear twin,now we are talking!But on second thought,doesnt a clone grow up just like we do?If so,that means I will be about 70 when she reaches 20,which would probably lead to me having a massive heart attack.So I wonder?could I write the 60k off as prepaid funeral expenses?Man,what a way to go,,you know I would die with a huge smile on my face!
Seriously,I would not have a pet cloned,like others have said,at best it would be a twin and I would not want a reminder of the pet I had lost.That and the fact that I could rescue a whole lot of animals with 60k,,,WHAT?What am I saying,if I had 60k I sure wouldnt let it go to the dogs!But 60k for a Heather Locklear twin,now we are talking!But on second thought,doesnt a clone grow up just like we do?If so,that means I will be about 70 when she reaches 20,which would probably lead to me having a massive heart attack.So I wonder?could I write the 60k off as prepaid funeral expenses?Man,what a way to go,,you know I would die with a huge smile on my face!
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From: B/CS, Texas!!
Originally Posted by Mike Roma
Personally, I think it's a waste of money, but it's her money. I'm also concerned about where this may lead. What kind of problems may lay ahead when these animals reproduce?
Some people seem to think that when an animal (or human) is cloned, that the resulting animal is the same creature. It isn't. It's the equivalent of a twin. At best it's a twin, if the cloning procedure was perfectly acomplished. We don't know what kind of 'defects' might be involved. I suppose you would get an animal that's as close to the origional as possible, though. Still a completely different animal. The personality/soul/spirit of the origional is gone.
Someone suggested cloning a spouse. If someone did that, they would have a baby that was a "twin" of their spouse. What would be the purpose in that? Monsterbaby, I think I'm agreeing with you here.
Well, as others have said here, there's no shortage of pets out there already. Rescue one.
Some people seem to think that when an animal (or human) is cloned, that the resulting animal is the same creature. It isn't. It's the equivalent of a twin. At best it's a twin, if the cloning procedure was perfectly acomplished. We don't know what kind of 'defects' might be involved. I suppose you would get an animal that's as close to the origional as possible, though. Still a completely different animal. The personality/soul/spirit of the origional is gone.
Someone suggested cloning a spouse. If someone did that, they would have a baby that was a "twin" of their spouse. What would be the purpose in that? Monsterbaby, I think I'm agreeing with you here.
Well, as others have said here, there's no shortage of pets out there already. Rescue one.
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I forgot to mention ... if I had $60g to put into a cloned favorite cat, it would definitely have to be spare change. I've also thought about the bonding between my Siamese and I..she was born into my hand, was the runt of the litter. I had to sleep on the floor, next to the box I had momma kitty in as she was delivering. I fell asleep and woke up with Tippy in my hand, sleeping.
And I do agree that there are too many irresponsible pet owners today, creating too many strays and unwanted animals. I've actually heard people say, "What gives you the right to take away their right to have babies?" when speying or neutering comes up. And then they stand out at wally world with their cute little box of kitties or puppies, giving them to just anyone who happens along.
And I do agree that there are too many irresponsible pet owners today, creating too many strays and unwanted animals. I've actually heard people say, "What gives you the right to take away their right to have babies?" when speying or neutering comes up. And then they stand out at wally world with their cute little box of kitties or puppies, giving them to just anyone who happens along.
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i have to 100% agree with you about some of these people, i have had golden retreivers that i would love to still have. the best one was a 3 year old male we rescued from a pound he had been abused was scared of humins, weighed 45 lbs,but after a lot of love and care o'boy what a true friend,had him untill he was 13 and the big C got him, 1 female i would love to have still, she was 15 , now we have 2 more goldens a breeder purchased female and a recued male. cloning one of these lovers. no i have the memorys thats enough for me.
good place to look dogsaver.org a great place to find a dog
i have to 100% agree with you about some of these people, i have had golden retreivers that i would love to still have. the best one was a 3 year old male we rescued from a pound he had been abused was scared of humins, weighed 45 lbs,but after a lot of love and care o'boy what a true friend,had him untill he was 13 and the big C got him, 1 female i would love to have still, she was 15 , now we have 2 more goldens a breeder purchased female and a recued male. cloning one of these lovers. no i have the memorys thats enough for me.
good place to look dogsaver.org a great place to find a dog
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I understand perfectly well, how much a pet can mean to a person. I still don't feel that cloning is worth the risk. Everything in the animal's body is being cloned too. Bacteria, virus, etc. are being cloned. What happens if the cloning process is just a little bit imperfect? Just enough to change the animal into a carrier of something that is incurable, and becomes the death of the world. Even if only one person is harmed from this altered bacteria or virus, would the cloning of your pet have been worth it? Then what happens after the cloning of pets becomes commonplace? Once the world accepts pets, then we'll be cloning people shortly after. It's just a natural progression. We could find the biggest, baddest, smartest human possible, and build a super Army of replaceable clones. Or even Heather Locklear. Wouldn't this be the same as owning another human being? Heck, we could even clone people as organ donors. No more shortage of organs. To me, it's obvious. The concept is wrong in so many ways, without even bringing in any religious or social opinions or values.
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Originally Posted by ShawnZ
I wish all the religous wish wash would stop getting in the way of science.I'm anti-religious and anti-cloning. Genetic research has it's place as long as it's for the betterment of society but frivolous cloning of anything with a heartbeat to satisfy a human want has no place.
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I could never clone a beloved pet, even if it cost $1.99 with a coupon. Your pet was who it was, let it rest in peace through your fond memories with it. Cloning your pet sort of reminds me of the stories you read once in a while of someone who's spouse or relative died in a house and several years later it's discovered that the dead spouse or relative was still lying in bed and the living spouse or relative was still going about their daily routine, sort of missing the fact that the dead spouse or relative is well, dead. Anyways, the cloned cat will never ever replace the previous pet. I think it's kind of creepy that someone would want a copy of a beloved pet. What are they going to do, try to re-create the memories and things that happened in their first pet's life? Creepy, just plain creepy. Your pet's dead. Get over with. Get a new one and create new happy memories. Don't dwell on the past. 
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