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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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How to keep my engine in top shape?

I have an 04 XLT Supercrew 4.6L 3.55ls. I would like to keep this engine in top running shape and make it sound new 80k miles down the road. Are there any additives that I can add into the oil, transmission ect to keep it sounding and running like new?? I know on older trucks, there engines sound like crap going down the road, very loud and missing like crazy...I want to keep this truck for a long time so I’m just asking if there is anything I could do besides keep the engine oil as clean as possiable to make this truck run and sound like new pleanty of miles down the road?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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First, let me put on my flame retardant underpants....

For what it's worth... I have heard that adding additives such as Slick-50 (do they even make it still?) is not good. Just like using regular oil and then moving to synthetic oil later on is bad too. Starting out with synthetic is okay though.

I think you're money is best spent keeping up with oil changes and tune ups.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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Your best bet is to follow the manufacturers fluid change intervals. Ford has been doing this long enough, to have a good idea of how to keep the vehicle in tip top shape. As for Inbounds comment about synthetic, that is incorrect. It is fine if you go to a synthetic oil later (providing you stay within reasonable viscosity parameters). I have always been under the impression that starting with synthetic is a no-no. You should run dino for the first couple of oil changes, then are fine to switch if you prefer. FWIW, the Motorcraft oil is one of the best on the market from what I have seen/researched. Im sure you can get more information than you ever needed if you hit up the oil and lubrication forum.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WheelMA1
...As for Inbounds comment about synthetic, that is incorrect. It is fine if you go to a synthetic oil later (providing you stay within reasonable viscosity parameters). I have always been under the impression that starting with synthetic is a no-no...
I stand corrected!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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MJB, my experience is that the best thing you can do for your engine is change the oil every 3,000 miles. I use synthetic oil myself, change it every 3,000 miles, and my wife's minivan runs like new at 8 years and 78,000 miles. WheelMA1, I agree that switching to synthetic does not have to be done right away. You're absolutely right that break-in should be done with dino-oil. However, I'd recommend making the switch within the first 20,000 miles. I switched at 50,000 miles on my old XR4Ti, and got so many gasket leaks, I had to switch back to dino. Apparently, not only does synthetic not sludge, it actually dissolves sludge, so on older engines, the sludge around gaskets is dissolved and if any cracks have formed in the now dry gaskets (dry because the sludge was preventing liquid oil from reaching the gasket) a leak starts. That being said, you should be fine switching on your '04.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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Yes, if you decide to switch to synthetic, you should do it while the vehicle is still somewhat "young". As TestPilot highlighted, synthetic does break up sludge that can be masking other issues on older/higher mileage vehicles.
InboundFX4, you are correct that some additives can do more harm than good. I believe it is due to the silicates? in it. I dont know a ton about oil and lubrication, but I am sure the guys in the oil forum can set anyone straight.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Yes, if you decide to switch to synthetic, you should do it while the vehicle is still somewhat "young". As TestPilot highlighted, synthetic does break up sludge that can be masking other issues on older/higher mileage vehicles.
InboundFX4, you are correct that some additives can do more harm than good. I believe it is due to the silicates? in it. I dont know a ton about oil and lubrication, but I am sure the guys in the oil forum can set anyone straight.
I have 2,500 miles on my truck right now, I'm due for an oil change shortly. Would changing to synthetic oil be alright for this many miles? Also, can the dealer make the switch or is it only when your changing ur oil urself??
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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I've always switched to synthetic at 3,000 miles during the first oil change.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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Is this your second oil change, or your first? I changed mine initially at 1k miles, and then 3k later. I switched to synthetic on my 01 F150 on the third oil change I believe. If this is only your first, I say run one more 3k mile stint with dino, then switch. It certainly wont hurt it by not switching (and be cheaper). You can probably switch on your second change, but I like knowing that the motor had some nice dino to help break it in for the first few thousand miles.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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The dealer should have no problem changing to synthetic. If they do, find a different dealer. I wont lie, I do not change my own oil. I do not want the hassle of disposing of it (legally). I always bring my vehicles to my local Ford dealer.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WheelMA1
Is this your second oil change, or your first? I changed mine initially at 1k miles, and then 3k later. I switched to synthetic on my 01 F150 on the third oil change I believe. If this is only your first, I say run one more 3k mile stint with dino, then switch. It certainly wont hurt it by not switching (and be cheaper). You can probably switch on your second change, but I like knowing that the motor had some nice dino to help break it in for the first few thousand miles.
I wait until 3,000 miles for the first change since that's what's recommended in the Scheduled Maintenance Guide for Special Operating Conditions (worst case), but I don't think it really matter whether it's the first, second or third change as long as you do the first few thousand miles on dinos.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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mjbesen310,

There's no magic trick to keeping today's engines running young. Like everybody said -- regular oil changes.

By the way, what's with the 80k??? Your 4.6L will be just about broken in right by then. Throw in some spark plugs at 100k, keep changing oil, and you'll need spark plugs again at 200k.


John
 
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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why do you guys switch to synthetic if you do regualr changes before the dino actually breaks down? my moms care came with mobil1 and its recoomended so thats what it gets but my other car always used dino oil and it has about 115K on it now and it still smooth and has a lot of power. dosen't sound brand new cause there is a little valve chatter and i might need new engine mounts but it still drives great. i change the oil regularly not always at 3K usually a lot later since it stays pretty clean, mostly highway driving. i change the air and fuel filter pretty often too; sticking with the stock stuff none of the K&N or anything. i think that might let it too much dirt with little benefits unless your highly tuned and need every little bit you can get from the engine.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 02:30 AM
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The dealer should have no problem changing to synthetic. If they do, find a different dealer. I wont lie, I do not change my own oil. I do not want the hassle of disposing of it (legally). I always bring my vehicles to my local Ford dealer.
I know I can go in to the dealer and ask them to put in synthetic oil on my oil change...but how do I know for sure they put that kind of oil in instead of just saying to me they used synthetic when they just used regular oil and just chanrg me more?? Any how I can check after words if they put the right oil in?? I may have an issure with trust from the dealer, but you know how they go, they will do anything to get more money!
 
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 03:02 AM
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I don't know how this got started, but it's not right. Your new truck came with 5-20 Motorcraft Premium Synthetic Blend. It's already got a synthetic/dino blend in it.

http://www.motorcraft.com/Products.asp?T=2&M=15&PageID=74

The main function of oil after lubrication is to carry heat and dirt away from the moving engine parts. Changing the oil is more important than what oil you use. The lubrication battle has been over for 50 years...they all do that very well. If you read the Amsoil web site they talk about 25,000 mile oil changes changing the filter alone at 12,500. Not in my truck.... I want the dirt flowing out with the oil every 3000 miles. All my oil changes are included in the lease so I guess I'm sticking with Motorcraft..every 3k.
 
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