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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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HI from I think the coldest place on the planet! just kiddin, I have a 96 PSD today it is -33 here in thunder bay CANADA last night it was -43 with the wind, had my truck plugged in last night this morning when I started it ran real ruff and the check engine light came on it went off when I bumped the Rpm,s up on my module. This Is my second winter with this truck could any one tell me why thi light came on? thanks
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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Probably an OBD 2 (on board diagnostics) emissions indication due to the rough startup at the very cold temp. The computer put a lot of fuel into the engine to get it running and the oxygen sensor sensed the less than optimum mix of fuel and air. This gave you the light. Increase the rpms and the oil press increased too to give you a better shot of fuel into the motor. The light went out so you are good. With temps that cold I would try to get an oil pan heater too, so the oil and the coolant are heated up. They are a heating pad type element that you simply stick onto the oil pan. It should make the truck a much easier startup. You are using Synthetic oil, right? If not then you definitely should at those temps. because the injectors are oil pressure fired.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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When it gets that cold your truck will do all kids of strange things ! As it wams up it will start to act normal again .
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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THANKS for the info, I dont use a synthetic oil the person that owned it before me didnt either I use 10/30 all year and LUCAS oil aditive after I posted today picked up some 3 in 1 conditoner and a new winter front , the pads you are talking about sound interesting , would you happen to know where a guy could find somthing like this thanks again W.S
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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I would just do an online search for them. I was looking for a heater for my other diesel, a 2001 Jetta TDI (50+mpg is killer!) and that was all I saw offered for it, the stick to the oil pan type. So I am sure they are available.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Get yourself some 5 or 0W40 synth. I run Esso 0W40 synthetic in my truck, and I was in T-Bay this morning... Started without a hitch. I might want to have the codes pulled and see why the cel was tripped however.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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Probably an OBD 2 (on board diagnostics) emissions indication due to the rough startup at the very cold temp. The computer put a lot of fuel into the engine to get it running and the oxygen sensor sensed the less than optimum mix of fuel and air. This gave you the light. Increase the rpms and the oil press increased too to give you a better shot of fuel into the motor. The light went out so you are good. With temps that cold I would try to get an oil pan heater too, so the oil and the coolant are heated up. They are a heating pad type element that you simply stick onto the oil pan. It should make the truck a much easier startup. You are using Synthetic oil, right? If not then you definitely should at those temps. because the injectors are oil pressure fired.
I dare you to try to find an oxygen sensor on your PSD.

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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WALJON
THANKS for the info, I dont use a synthetic oil the person that owned it before me didnt either I use 10/30 all year and LUCAS oil aditive after I posted today picked up some 3 in 1 conditoner and a new winter front , the pads you are talking about sound interesting , would you happen to know where a guy could find somthing like this thanks again W.S
Drop the Lucas. I'm not gonna get into all the other reasons why it is a bad choice to use but you sure as heck don't want to use it with the temperatures you are experiencing. Use either the petroleum 10w-30 by itself or synthetic 5w-30 to 5w-40 during the cold winter.

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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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Drop the Lucas. I'm not gonna get into all the other reasons why it is a bad choice to use but you sure as heck don't want to use it with the temperatures you are experiencing. Use either the petroleum 10w-30 by itself or synthetic 5w-30 to 5w-40 during the cold winter.

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Yes, drop the Lucas. Somebody on the web published some research that he did with different oil additives and just about all of them foamed up. You want to avoid foamy engine oil with the PSD at all costs. The injectores are hydraulicly (spelling?) driven by high pressure engine oil which is not compressible. Get some very compressible air into the oil and the truck will run very badly if at all. Also at those tempuratures you would be surprised at how much better the truck would start cold with synthetic oil.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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I'll say it again, 5W40, or 0W40 full synth, and no additives. My truck started fine after sitting for 4 hours in that -43 wind without being plugged in last night... It was so cold that it wouldn't hold O/T with the idle at 1500 rpm with the EBPV closed
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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I'll third the drop the Lucas comment. I'm sure you have all seen their demonstartion gear set in the local auto parts store. I was able to get the Lucas to foam using their little hand crank. If it foams by hand, then it will certianly foam in your engine. Foam=real bad.

I would recommend getting a heater for your oil pan so you are starting the engine with warm coolant and oil. I'm sure it would make a huge difference at those temps. Also, make sure you use a thinner oil as suggested in your owner's manual.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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I dare you to try to find an oxygen sensor on your PSD.

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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One thing to keep in mind is that wind chill does not affect machinery like it does us humans. Wind chill will cool a motor down quicker but the temperature of the machinery will not go below the true ambient temperature.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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I'd definitely go with synthetic. I just switched over to Rotella 5W40 syn, and my truck started up without so much as a rough idle this morning, and it was 13 degrees. Granted, that's not -43 though.

BTW, nice avatar JR
 
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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can i guy run 5w30 syn. all year round or are there problems using the 5w30 rather than 15w40 in the summer? also one more thinmg, my buddy runs syn in the winter, but dino in the summer, is this ok??
 
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