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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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Single Track to a Posi??

Does anyone know how hard this would be and what kind of things i would need to do the job???? BTW i have a 9 inch rear end
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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You'll need a 9inch carrier that was originally set up as a posi-trac. Either buy new(very expensive) or find a good used one, and have it checked out by a transmission shop to make sure it's operational. If you don't mind spending a few extra bucks, check into an ARB locker. This is a great part time system, that can be left as an open differential for daily driving, and with the flick of a switch, be fully locked for when you're stuck, or want to drag race down a straight road.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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when you say 9 inch carrier....are you reffering to the 3rd Member???
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/16399/

Here's one article in regards to the 9 inch rear ends, I'm referring to the center section(sometimes called the 3rd member, or carrier) This is the part that holds the gears, and posi-trac clutch packs. If you end up searching through wrecking yards, look for a big N stamped onto the member, as that would indicate is is a posi-trac unit. Click on the 4th pic from the top on that link, and it will show you where the N is on the housing. That will be your biggest clue in finding one in a junk yard.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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so finding a complete center section like that means i can just unbolt my center section, remove it, and then blot in the new one?????? is it that easy??
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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so finding a complete center section like that means i can just unbolt my center section, remove it, and then blot in the new one?????? is it that easy??

If you find one, have a transmission shop check it over. Likely, if it's been sitting for a while, it will have deteriorated clutch packs inside, and may only operate as an opened diff. Once you know that everything is going to function properly, you have to remove your rear wheels, brake drums, and the four bolts that hold your axles in, pull the axles out, then drop the existing carrier. The trick here, though, is to make sure your axles will fit, as Ford used several different spline counts, and lengths of axles on various different vehicals. It might be best to grab the whole rear end, and have everything available. At the very least, try and grab one from a truck, and the axles as well. If you find one in a car, you'll likely have to get it reworked a bit so that your existing axles can be used with it, if the spline count is not the same.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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well i figured you would have to pull the axels.....but wont the tag on the diff. cover tell you the spline count???
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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and another thing.....i will probably buy the center section off of ebay and most of the auctions i look at tell the spline count......so i guess if i knew what mine were then i wouldnt have to worry about that
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Not necissarily. I've always had to count the splines on mine when doing any type of upgrade. When I still had my beloved 69 F100 4x4, I lucked out and found another truck of similar year that had(likely wasn't original to the parts truck) a rebuilt N case rear-end in it, with the same gearing as my 69. It was also a 31 spline axle set-up, where my original diff was only a 28 spline.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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so the best thing to do would be to pull of a wheel and brake assembly and yank an axel and count the number of splines
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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so the best thing to do would be to pull of a wheel and brake assembly and yank an axel and count the number of splines

Yup. I would personally. At least you'll know what you have, and what you're going to want to look for.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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OK well thanks for your help....im probably gonna look into getting a used center section from ebay or a local junkyard
 
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RR4E...approximately what does an ARB locker unit cost? and does that come with the entire housing, axles and everything? or??? that sounds like it would almost be the best way to go...any information would be helpful...thanks...

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http://www.rocky-road.com/airlocker.html

http://www.arb.com.au/

Both explain the ARB better than I can. Essentially, it's a kit you add to your existing differential, complete with onboard air compressor under the hood (good for airing up flats as well) that gives you the option to lock and unlock at will, gaining the benefits of a fully locked differential like the Detroit Locker, and still retain the benefits of an opened differential for every day driving.
 
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You could also look at the Detroil Electrac, it is operated electronically instead of an air system. The unit operates as a limited slip and when you want it to function as a locker you just flip the switch and it will lock. Both the ARB and Detroit units are good solid units, and both are expensive.
 
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