Bye-Bye Excursion
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Originally Posted by quietman
You know the answer. The old media ARE the kooks. Thank God that they are less relevant by the day...
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hitecdan---I'll make sure that global warming doesn't go away! I simply don;t own a car that gets good mileage. My daily driver 03 CObra gets 13 around town! I guess tha makes it an ecomony car.
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Originally Posted by Matt M, PA
hitecdan---I'll make sure that global warming doesn't go away! I simply don;t own a car that gets good mileage. My daily driver 03 CObra gets 13 around town! I guess tha makes it an ecomony car.
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I try to be careful about the environment. I always make sure my old oil and batteries get to a recycling center, I don't litter, etc. But, it seems the Sierra group won;t be happy until the air coming out is cleaner than the air going in!
About mileage. My soon to be former '94 Bronco only gets 10 MPG or so, but I don't hear anyone complaining about that. (I have never checked the MPG of the Viper...too scared to know!) My best fuel ecomony car is a slant six Plymouth I restored that rides in a trailer.
About mileage. My soon to be former '94 Bronco only gets 10 MPG or so, but I don't hear anyone complaining about that. (I have never checked the MPG of the Viper...too scared to know!) My best fuel ecomony car is a slant six Plymouth I restored that rides in a trailer.
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Originally Posted by ZBeeble
But seriously, Ford cutting the X could be a good thing. It would make an opportunity for some enterprising chap to buy F250 frames from Ford, diesel engines from <someone> and then build a first-class SUV on top.
Duncan
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Originally Posted by willald
I mean, GM doesn't even OFFER a diesel 3/4 ton SUV, in their Suburban/Yukon...
Will
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Originally Posted by johnsdiesel
Yes they do, it's the Suburban 2500 and they've offered it for a long time. They don't offer a diesel engine in it though.
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...d30foreig.html alludes to two items of good news though I can't say what the source is & the article data is Oct 30.
1 - a V6 Diesel for F150 and I assume that would translate to the Expy line. Anyone have any ideas what kind of TQ & HP a V6 diesel might generate? Supposedly the Expy can tow 11,000 pounds.
"Ford also is developing a six-cylinder diesel engine for the F-150 for introduction late in this decade."
2 - potential continuance of the X in 2006
"Ford Excursion: Ford will drop the Excursion, although the timing for the end of production keeps changing. The Excursion was scheduled to die after the 2004 model, but Ford said it would keep it going at least through 2005. Now it appears Ford might continue to sell the Excursion through the 2006 model year."
1 - a V6 Diesel for F150 and I assume that would translate to the Expy line. Anyone have any ideas what kind of TQ & HP a V6 diesel might generate? Supposedly the Expy can tow 11,000 pounds.
"Ford also is developing a six-cylinder diesel engine for the F-150 for introduction late in this decade."
2 - potential continuance of the X in 2006
"Ford Excursion: Ford will drop the Excursion, although the timing for the end of production keeps changing. The Excursion was scheduled to die after the 2004 model, but Ford said it would keep it going at least through 2005. Now it appears Ford might continue to sell the Excursion through the 2006 model year."
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1. Ford is already using that V6 PSD in their LCF trucks. The key to using it in the F150 and Expedition is the availability of low sulphur diesel so that it can meet the emissions requirements for 1/2 ton trucks.
2. I'll believe that Ford is done with the X when I see it. These rumors have been floating around for years, yet somehow it still remains in production.
2. I'll believe that Ford is done with the X when I see it. These rumors have been floating around for years, yet somehow it still remains in production.
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Originally Posted by johnsdiesel
2. I'll believe that Ford is done with the X when I see it. These rumors have been floating around for years, yet somehow it still remains in production.
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Originally Posted by NewXer
1 - a V6 Diesel for F150 and I assume that would translate to the Expy line. Anyone have any ideas what kind of TQ & HP a V6 diesel might generate? Supposedly the Expy can tow 11,000 pounds.
The power output of the V6 would kinda depend on its displacement, right? No word on that yet. I would imagine it would be around 300/500 to have any presence in the diesel market.
They'll definantly have to drop to IRS on any stretched Expy. The F-150's rear outboard shocks really work well to control that live axle. I would imagine they would use a similar setup.
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OK, maybe Ford could work with International and offer this as an Excursion replacement:
http://www.internationaldelivers.com.../ST3_popup.asp
Duncan
http://www.internationaldelivers.com.../ST3_popup.asp
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Originally Posted by Matt M, PA
I try to be careful about the environment. I always make sure my old oil and batteries get to a recycling center, I don't litter, etc. But, it seems the Sierra group won;t be happy until the air coming out is cleaner than the air going in!
Unfortunately, the added cost per vehicle was too much and Ford cut costs by going back to regular radiators ... really a shame, because they had set a great example for the industry by doing it in the first place...
Steve
Last edited by Planecrazy; Jan 6, 2005 at 10:58 AM.
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They didn't dump the technology, though. They gave it to their Volvo guys. That's the radiator you get today in their XC models. Maybe even their other models.
Last edited by crjackson; Jan 7, 2005 at 11:31 AM.