The 352FE Roars again!!
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The 352FE Roars again!!
After 4 months of rebuilding this thing and blowing my budget wide open, the 66 352 fired up today.
I just got it too fire about an hour ago and started to break the new cam in when I ran out of gas
. So tommorow I will continue to break it in.
There is a few problems though. For one my oil gauge said I was getting 10psi at 2000rpm. I have a new oil sender on there as well, Im hoping that my gauge is scewey and I have more then that.
Also, I left the valve covers off to see what was going on, what I saw was the drivers side head flooding with oil like niagra falls all over the place, but the passenger head does not appear to be getting any oil at all, whats up with this?
Thanks for all the help, my motor would not have turned out like it did if it werent for the FTE FE forum.
I just got it too fire about an hour ago and started to break the new cam in when I ran out of gas
. So tommorow I will continue to break it in. There is a few problems though. For one my oil gauge said I was getting 10psi at 2000rpm. I have a new oil sender on there as well, Im hoping that my gauge is scewey and I have more then that.
Also, I left the valve covers off to see what was going on, what I saw was the drivers side head flooding with oil like niagra falls all over the place, but the passenger head does not appear to be getting any oil at all, whats up with this?
Thanks for all the help, my motor would not have turned out like it did if it werent for the FTE FE forum.
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Originally Posted by FERacing66
Thanks for all the help, my motor would not have turned out like it did if it werent for the FTE FE forum.
I'd pull the bolts out of the rocker stands and check to make sure you put the necked down one in the hole with the oil passage. Get this fixed; you'll be buying valvetrain parts if you dont.
I had problems with my oil pressure gauge too. First it looked like I wasn't getting ANY pressure
and I found out that the line had dirt in it. So I went to Napa and got a new gauge and line. Plastic line sucks. It kinks and causes low oil pressure readings. So I cut it off after the kink and went back to Napa for a new fitting.What were the specifics of your build?
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Yes its good.
Im pretty sure I put the necked bolts in the passage hole, but Ill check again to make sure. Also, I didnt prime the oil pump, I know, I know, your supposed to, but I live 40 miles from town and I wanted to start it NOW not in 2 or 3 hours, so I said screw it and I ran it.
Also, I couldnt run it for long because I didnt have any coolant in it, because when I tried to fill it, I found that there were two holes in each side of the block that were leaking collant all over, Ill have to find out where to get plugs for them.
btw, Im running a Crane 901, stock 4 barrel intake, hedman headers, melling HV oil pump, comp timing set, melling pushrods, clevite bearings, hastings rings, stock fuel pump, and a newly rebuilt Holley 600cfm Vacum Secondary carb.
Im pretty sure I put the necked bolts in the passage hole, but Ill check again to make sure. Also, I didnt prime the oil pump, I know, I know, your supposed to, but I live 40 miles from town and I wanted to start it NOW not in 2 or 3 hours, so I said screw it and I ran it.
Also, I couldnt run it for long because I didnt have any coolant in it, because when I tried to fill it, I found that there were two holes in each side of the block that were leaking collant all over, Ill have to find out where to get plugs for them.
btw, Im running a Crane 901, stock 4 barrel intake, hedman headers, melling HV oil pump, comp timing set, melling pushrods, clevite bearings, hastings rings, stock fuel pump, and a newly rebuilt Holley 600cfm Vacum Secondary carb.
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Is the water coming from the heads? My son's Edelbrock heads leaked from a threaded hold that pierced a water passage. Edelbrock told us they would give us a new head but recommended we simply plug. We did and it worked fine.
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No this is coming from the water jacket in the block, right next to the freeze plugs, the speed shop took em out when it was worked on, and I was not expecting anything to come out, they could have told me! Oh well, life goes on. Other then that the machine shop did an awesome job on my heads and block, they really know what there doing ill be going back to them for my machine work.
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Feracing66,
Me thinks you're in a bit of a hurry here. You gotta have oil and water in all the right places. If not, you're only going to extend your rebuild time.
If you had primed the engine you might have noticed the lack of oil to the one head.
Hopefully, things are still useable at this point.
I don't see how you can get through the break-in without coolant. The motor shold run for approx. 30 minutes. In which time it will definitely be getting hot with coolant....
Take some time, get the cooling system and oiling system in good working order. Then tackle the break-in.
Me thinks you're in a bit of a hurry here. You gotta have oil and water in all the right places. If not, you're only going to extend your rebuild time.
If you had primed the engine you might have noticed the lack of oil to the one head.
Hopefully, things are still useable at this point.
I don't see how you can get through the break-in without coolant. The motor shold run for approx. 30 minutes. In which time it will definitely be getting hot with coolant....
Take some time, get the cooling system and oiling system in good working order. Then tackle the break-in.
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I only ran the motor for maybe a minute or so. Not enough time to get it hot. Are the plugs that go into the block easy to get?
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You should be able to get those plugs at a hardware store. There isnt anything special about them, i know i put a drain plug in mine, but just figure out the size and go get a plug. I also would get everything right before i tried to break it in, you dont want to throw away all of that hard work by trying to hurry up in the end. Trust me i know lol , as do most people here probably. 
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Yeah, I wouldn't even crank mine over until I was sure the block and radiator were full of coolant and I had checked the oil a few times. I also prelubed the motor when it was on the stand. Somewhat easier there.
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Update
I got the water jacket plugs yesterday, and plan on installing them today. I took the bolts out of the rocker arm shaft to make sure I had the necked one in the bolt hole with the oil passage, I did. I still cannot figure out why I dont have oil in my passenger head, hopefully when I start it up again today I will see some oil there. This has me very worried, what the hell did I do wrong?
Got another question, are the two heads oiled indpendely of each other or does oil flow from one head to the other or something? Im worried my cam is not getting enough oil either. Oh, well ill see what happens when i start it up today.
I got the water jacket plugs yesterday, and plan on installing them today. I took the bolts out of the rocker arm shaft to make sure I had the necked one in the bolt hole with the oil passage, I did. I still cannot figure out why I dont have oil in my passenger head, hopefully when I start it up again today I will see some oil there. This has me very worried, what the hell did I do wrong?
Got another question, are the two heads oiled indpendely of each other or does oil flow from one head to the other or something? Im worried my cam is not getting enough oil either. Oh, well ill see what happens when i start it up today.
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I would run the oil pump shaft with a drill and see what your issues are before putting fire to the motor, you could be running the risk of complete shut down, but that's me... The heads are oiled separately, the driver side from the #2 cam bearing journal and the passenger from the #4 cam bearing journal. Because the oil feeds from the front to back, you probably did not have it running long enough to provide a complete supply, let alone to the back of the motor at all.
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When in doubt, check it out. I would not fire the motor again until you've had time to prime the engine and double check the oil pressure and passenger side oiling issue. Put a mechanical gauge on right on the engine if you have to. Pull the dizzy and prelube it, watch the oil pressure.
I had a motor that showed plenty of pressure every where above idle, but it always fell back to 0 psi below 1000 rpm. Brand new high volume, high pressure "racing" oil pump from Milodon and it was bad outta the box. It took me a long time to convince myself and others that it was bad.... Wiped the crank and the rods.
Good luck, but I'd definetly make sure you have oil everywhere before you fire it again.
Also, is it possible that the machine shop took out some oil gallery plugs??? Typically they will for cleaning after the machine work is done. It's a simple thing, but I know I've seen a couple posts on this sight where guys have forgotten to re-install them during the build up.
I had a motor that showed plenty of pressure every where above idle, but it always fell back to 0 psi below 1000 rpm. Brand new high volume, high pressure "racing" oil pump from Milodon and it was bad outta the box. It took me a long time to convince myself and others that it was bad.... Wiped the crank and the rods.
Good luck, but I'd definetly make sure you have oil everywhere before you fire it again.
Also, is it possible that the machine shop took out some oil gallery plugs??? Typically they will for cleaning after the machine work is done. It's a simple thing, but I know I've seen a couple posts on this sight where guys have forgotten to re-install them during the build up.
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Yes they removed all oil plugs, but I got new ones and reinstalled them. How much does it cost for an oil pump primer? Can I get creative with any thing around the house to spin the oil pump? I have all the stuff I need now and am very anxious to run this thing and get it tuned up. I cant just run into autozone to get something and be back in 5 minutes, going into town for anything burns up the whole freakin day, or at least half of it.
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Alright how bout this, could I prime the system by pulling the coil wire and cranking it on and off for 10 minutes? I think I might give this a try to prime it, the cheap way is my way! What do you folks think?