A few things about Ford Engines (V8)
#61
tang you have most of it right. the 289 switched from 5 bolt to 6 bolt in the 65 model year. (I have both). and the 406 had a short production run, it started late in 62 for the 63 model year and the 427 replaced it in 64. after 64 it was officialy called the 7 liter. if you go by fords literature. also the 427 was available in 69 on the mustang order sheet, but I have never seen one. and then we go to the lima engine (429-460) the 460 was first in production lincolns and mercs, big time torqe to pull those huge cars. when the 428 was phased out for the big cars the 429 took its place. and actually all three were offered on the order sheet at one time in 1968 or 1969,(427-428-429) you can see which one was to be the performance engine when the fe bowed out.
#62
I'll kick in a little 410 mercs(66,67, 330 horse and 450 torque) are FEs, its a 390 with a 428 crank they are both externaly balbnced. they need a specific flywheel or flex plate.I think the early 410 1960 or so is in the 430/462 family and not an FE. there were 462 and 460s both in 68 lincolns.you have to check the vin #
#63
#64
7-Liter galaxies 1st had 427s then 428 replaced it .427 had the horses but the 428 was stronger on the street and alot cheaper to produce.The 427 was never put into a street 'stang, except a very limited number of Shelby GT-500s, then they got regular T-bird 428s, then they got 428 Cobra Jets in the early months of 68. 390 horse 427 Cougars do exist but not many there were also two 429 Cougars in 69/70 but I don't know if they still exist.
#66
430 and 462 Lincoln & Edsel
Still wondering what was the erlier 410 the one in Edsels,Is it with the 430 and 462.I know no one seems to use those but the 58-59 430 4bbl is speced at 375 horse @4800 and 490 torque @3100. Its 4.3 X 3.7 . and sounds tough .The 462 is 340 horse @4600 and 485 torque @2800 .B & s is 4.38 X3.83 . This is all out of old Motors manuels not my ***. So I find no list for the 1960 410 was it my imagination?
#67
#68
I would find a late 60's to very early 70's 302 as they had slightly higher compression, however you will have to change your transmission if you have an automatic or the bellhousing if you have a manual since the 302 has the small block bellhousing, but you are right that 302's are reliable and very cheap for parts. Oh also you would have to change the frame perches. wish you luck on the swap (shouldn't be to bad).
#69
The 85 302 H.O. was definately the first year of the roller cam. I have one. The 85 302 H.O. was the first year for the roller cam, forged pistons, double roller timing chain, and the world class T-5 5 speed tranny. I think (but I'm not positive) 85 was also the first year for the factory tubular headers that replaced the cast manifolds. Also, the 85 had a serpentine belt drive in place of v-belts. I'm not sure if this was the first year for this. The 85 302 H.O. was the last year for the 4BBL Holley and the fake dual exhaust (2 into 1 into 2). The 86 got real dual exhaust and F.I. It also had 1 year only heads and pistons which are not desirable for performance upgrades due to piston to valve clearance. 86-88 had speed density F.I. 89 went to mass air flow. I think California models got the MAF before 89, but I'm not sure. I think 92, give or take a year, was the year ford switched from forged to hypereutectic (I probably spelled that wrong) cast pistons. 95 was the last H.O. The 96 or 97 thru 01 Explorer 302's were almost identical to the 95 spec H.O. except they had a much milder cam. However, the early ones had GT40 heads. In 97 1/2 through 01, they had the GT40P heads. With a cam change, these are awesome budget performance motors. I believe the Explorers had their own oil pans and timing covers, so these need to be swapped for non-explorer installations.
#70
I would find a late 60's to very early 70's 302 as they had slightly higher compression
#72
Originally Posted by turbocoupe5.0
86-88 had speed density F.I. 89 went to mass air flow. I think California models got the MAF before 89, but I'm not sure. I think 92, give or take a year, was the year ford switched from forged to hypereutectic (I probably spelled that wrong) cast pistons. 95 was the last H.O. The 96 or 97 thru 01 Explorer 302's were almost identical to the 95 spec H.O. except they had a much milder cam. However, the early ones had GT40 heads. In 97 1/2 through 01, they had the GT40P heads. With a cam change, these are awesome budget performance motors. I believe the Explorers had their own oil pans and timing covers, so these need to be swapped for non-explorer installations.
The 5.0 Explorers also have, what is basically a Cobra intake and is a very popular swap.
#73
I'll throw some engine info out. The MEL 410 was an underbored 430 4.2 vs 4.3 inch bore. It was produced only 58 & 59 because the Edsel became just another Ford in 1960 complete with a 223 as the base engine. Y blocks 239 and 256 were 1954 only models for the Ford and Mercury respectivly. They were superceded in 1955 by the 272 and 292 engines. The 292 saw use in cars through 1962 and trucks through 1964. The 272 was a 1955-57 only run. In 1956 Ford increased the size with the 312 engine, whick had either 1 or 1 4bbls in the T bird. In 1957, with a compession increase, the horsepower jumped and a supercharger was offered. The 312 continued through 1960 as a 2 bbl base engine in the Mercury. For those who haven't seen or driven one, the 1967 Shelby GT500 came with what was basicly a police interceptor 428 with 427 medium riser heads and a 2 4 bbl intake. The GT500KR models had the hydraulic lifter 427. I always called the FE engines interceptors as that's what Ford called them when they came out. The first 332 engines were interceptor 332, with the 4 bbl called interceptor special and the 352 called police interceptor. These had machined combustion chambers and solid lifters in 1958. In 1959 the chambers were cast, and mid-year hydraulic lifters were installed. In 1958 and 1959 there was an Edsel only 361 engine, which later came back as the 360. It was a 352 bored .050 over. For those who have messed with one, the early 430 was an impressive engine, as was stated 375HP at 4800 and 490 ft-lbs at 3100. It had a steel crank and huge valves. The version you want is called the EDJ engine as all PNs start EDJ. It's undoing was it's size and weight, it makes a 460 look puny. It also has the distinction of have a "slant deck" design like the "french" 348 and 409 engines. The bottom of the heads were flat except for a small relief around the spark plug. The intake was water heated, and there were 3 thermostats.
#74
Ford Engines
The 255 was made from 80-82. In fact in those years
it was the only V8 in the mustang and only available
with an automatic with 2.47 gears. It uses I6 250
pistons. I always joked that when the 250 was discontinued
in 1980 they had a stockpile of pistons they needed
to use up.
it was the only V8 in the mustang and only available
with an automatic with 2.47 gears. It uses I6 250
pistons. I always joked that when the 250 was discontinued
in 1980 they had a stockpile of pistons they needed
to use up.