2005 TTC - Some changes being made!
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2005 TTC - Some changes being made!
Those of you who follow Top Truck Challenge might be interested in this thread from Pirate: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307184 It appears they're changing the rules a bit and I have a feeling it's not going to be so friendly to trucks like ours. But the good news is they're doing away with the stupid show and shine and road test junk that leaves the scores all up to the judges opinion. I'm thinking we'll see more and more buggies next year and in years to come. This also leads me to believe that we'll see the Real Truck Challenge get a bit more intense and have more coverage.
Anyhoo, that's my news for the day.
Anyhoo, that's my news for the day.
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I have mixed feelings about that. On the one hand, its good because they were letting moon buggies in anyways....even though the comp was by their rules for "street legal" "real" trucks. However, I imagine that the event will now become dominated by buggies. Nothing against buggies, they are cool as hell, but I prefer to see "real" trucks compete in that type of event.
So that leaves us with the "real truck challenge". Currently, my truck is "too extreme" by their rules for the RTC. So's several others of yours in here. Which I think is lame. What I'd like to see is them relax their restrictions a little. Since they are making the TTC for "anything with four wheels and a motor" they should make the "RTC" for "any truck that meets federal requirements for legality" and give it equal coverage. I guess we'll see...
So that leaves us with the "real truck challenge". Currently, my truck is "too extreme" by their rules for the RTC. So's several others of yours in here. Which I think is lame. What I'd like to see is them relax their restrictions a little. Since they are making the TTC for "anything with four wheels and a motor" they should make the "RTC" for "any truck that meets federal requirements for legality" and give it equal coverage. I guess we'll see...
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What I can't WAIT to see is those $50k rock crawlers that ALWAYS get nothing more than DUSTY hacking thru the mudpit. They don't know what they're in for...
On the other hand, all those 'EXTREME' buggies are all basically extreme in the same way, Rockies, pricy axles, hydro steering, mega light, 4 wheel steering, etc. I STILL think we'll be seeing the 'regular' trucks in there. Heck, you can catch the trophy rockers on the outdoor channel every weekend. I'd watch it just to see the sans-windshield/sheetmetal rockers get nasty-dirty (read: beautiful) in the pits, and then gork out 1/4 of the way thru cuz their 'awesome crawlin gears' aint even enough to clean the tires in the mud.
On the other hand, all those 'EXTREME' buggies are all basically extreme in the same way, Rockies, pricy axles, hydro steering, mega light, 4 wheel steering, etc. I STILL think we'll be seeing the 'regular' trucks in there. Heck, you can catch the trophy rockers on the outdoor channel every weekend. I'd watch it just to see the sans-windshield/sheetmetal rockers get nasty-dirty (read: beautiful) in the pits, and then gork out 1/4 of the way thru cuz their 'awesome crawlin gears' aint even enough to clean the tires in the mud.
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The big plus to it going to a buggy dominated event is we probably won't have to watch 6 Jeeps every year. 
What are the rules for RTC that don't allow your truck to compete there Pro?
What are the rules for RTC that don't allow your truck to compete there Pro?
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That's about a lame rule. 
Maybe they'll revamp some stuff . . . we'll see. I think they should set it up so it has to have a stock frame, full body (no flatbeds), and be streetable. But what do I know . . . I've got a, nevermind.
Maybe they'll revamp some stuff . . . we'll see. I think they should set it up so it has to have a stock frame, full body (no flatbeds), and be streetable. But what do I know . . . I've got a, nevermind.
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Originally Posted by momudder720
I still say Pro's truck would be the absolute BOMB on 35's...
I haven't watched a RTC yet but if they have junk like the mini Rubicon you have to have some decent sized tires to make it work. Small boggers would be cool in the mud but that's about it.
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rtc always interested me more anyway, more stuff like what we run. i've got my other truck thats street legal, i'm thinking about entering it. it should really tear things up. its my little gmc sonoma, 2wd, 4banger, auto, open diff, lowered, all kina goodies. anyone wanna back me up on this and fly me there?
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To be honest with you, TTC is a joke anyways. The mud pit is always either impossible or everyone goes through, and no buddy ever makes it through the frame twister. I think it is just an event to make the ujoint and axle shaft manufactures richer.
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Originally Posted by bremen242
To be honest with you, TTC is a joke anyways. The mud pit is always either impossible or everyone goes through, and no buddy ever makes it through the frame twister. I think it is just an event to make the ujoint and axle shaft manufactures richer.
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well damn! sounds like my truck would make it in....very doubtful it would make it out! i garauntee you if i had rear steer i might have a chance if i didn't break and axle or something!
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Originally Posted by ivanribic
I've seen several competitors drive right through the frame twister with no winching, as well as mud pits where some people completed it and some did not. I don't see how a tough competition is a "joke" just because some people don't have a rig capable of completing the course. Now what WAS a joke was the engineering round and the road test. White Knight took 7th in engineering this year. A 4 linked custom built truggy with full hydro scored below leaf sprung Jepes. That was the biggest load of bovine feces ever BUT it was all up to the opinion of the judges. With all the rest of the events they're either timed or measured so it's a clear cut score.
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Bremen, have you seen the 2004 TTC? I didn't say the Jeep was on 36's but it did beat out WK and win 1st. My issue (what I called the joke) was with those 2 rounds of TTC which are being illiminated next year.