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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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my 76 ford hi boy with a 360 and a np435 tranny seems to be vey slow and it tops out at around 60 is that normal? any suggestions?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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My truck does the same, I am still getting the timing fixed.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Mine will do that in 3rd, you might have really low gears in it.has anyone messed with the pickup before you.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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I'll go for that. I am in 3rd by 25mph. I run high RPM's on the highway. It will shut down on me if I get to 60. Stall speed?
I've thought about getting an auxiliary transmission or lift it and larger tires. The wife says she wouldn't be able to drive it, so she x'd the lift idea.
Last resort, changing gears.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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My 79 1 Ton Has A 4:10 Gear In The Back She Sees About 65 And Thats All Shes Got
 
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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my 78 F-250 with 4.10 can do 85@4200rpm if you got 4.56's you should be able to run at 70 thats only 3500rpm's with stock tire size. now if you up the diameter (6") to 35's you can get another 10mph with the same rpm's. 33's(4in bigger) would let it run about 6mph faster at same rpm's. get my drift. now if you went 12" bigger which would be 40's you could run about 22 mph faster. Pretty cool.

o yeah the reason for the no power at high speeds is cause all the torque for the 351M/400's is about 3000rpm. Not to sure bout the FE's though. probably the same though.

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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my 76 ford hi boy with a 360 and a np435 tranny seems to be vey slow and it tops out at around 60 is that normal? any suggestions?
I am bit confused when you say, "tops out at around 60". Do you mean in 4th gear driving down the highway? If that is what you are saying, that is "NOT" normal. However, if you are speaking when in 3rd gear, then that is pretty normal and really pushing your FE.

My '76 F150 4x4 390FE with T18 tranny will get up and MOVE. Our trannies are pretty similar, but your 3rd gear is lower than my T18 and thus results with a lower shift point than mine. And mine tops out at 55-60mph.

This is all said not knowing what axle gear ratio you are running. If lower than 3.50's, then you should not be shifting from 3rd to 4th at 60mph period. Really need more info...to provide a better answer.

Here are the gear ratio's for the NP435:
NP 435 = 6.69 3.34 1.79 1.00

Hope this helps some...
 

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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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my 76 ford hi boy with a 360 and a np435 tranny seems to be vey slow and it tops out at around 60 is that normal? any suggestions?
No. My '74 F250 4wd, 360, NP435 is completely stock, with 130k on it, and it will easily do 70 mph (which is about as fast as I want to drive it) and would probably run on up to 80+ until it ran out of RPMs. This is with the factory 4.10 ratio gears and 245/75-16E rubber (about 31" tall"). I've checked the speedo with GPS and its dead on.

What size tires are you running? Large tires will decrease your indicated speed, and the increased rolling resistance will make it harder for the truck to turn rpms at speed

Check your timing, exhaust, carb for something that would be restricting power at higher rpms.

Good luck.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 03:52 AM
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my stereo and gauges dont work so all my numbers are off my garmin g.p.s.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 04:45 AM
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o yeah the reason for the no power at high speeds is cause all the torque for the 351M/400's is about 3000rpm. Not to sure bout the FE's though. probably the same though.

-Aaron

Very true! I think the 360's power range with the stock cam is 1500-2500rpm (or something close)...after that there is little torque to feel the acceleration. In my 73 F250 4x4 with 33" tires and 456 gears, I did around 2800 rpm (or 3000, cant remember)at 60mph. Thats where i could feel the truck stop 'pulling'. I could get it up to 70, but it takes a long time and at those rpms, the engine sounded like it was going to explode because of the rigid fan.

The 360 has alot of low rpm grunt, but feels like it runs out of breath if you run it over 3k. It really out accelerates my 99' F150 4x4 with a 5.4 upto 55.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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mine pulls hard all the way to 5 grandfrom about 2500,i go downt the raod at 55 at around 2500 prms.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Are you sure you don't have the transfer case in low? That sounds ridiculously slow, and I don't mean that sarcastically. On the freeways here, you would be shoved off the road or denied entry if 60 was your top speed. It really sounds to me like you are in low range. Granted I have 3.50 gears, and 33" tires, but I get to 55 and am somewhere around 2200rpm. I don't know how fast my truck will go, but it will easily exceed most speed limits if it were so inclined. Do you have a high ratio rear end, and small tires? Then I guess it could be that. Try some larger tires maybe? I am curious to hear the results of this.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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that doesnt sound normal, my 77 f250 with a c6 and a 351m can do over a buck on the highway. it has 4:10s and larger tires, 285/75s.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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i had a freind that his 72 would only go about 75 at 5000 rpmshe had 4 56 with a fourspeed, 352ci.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Right now i have 4:10's and stock tires.
 
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